Am I the only one here who rates Sunil Gavaskar slightly above Viv Richards in Test?

[capt_Luffy]

turner depends on the context for me.

Turner 100% Sunny honestly. Him in any kind of SC track against any attack really.

 

[Coronis]

He'd probably average a lot higher considering his runs would be needed tor the team more than they were for Windies in the 80s.

What? How do you get that?

 

[Johan]

Turner 100% Sunny honestly. Him in any kind of SC track against any attack really.

not really convinced, don't think there's a big gap between them on turners in number of runs they'll make anyway so you can go either way.

 

[Johan]

What? How do you get that?

Imran said it.

 

[capt_Luffy]

not really convinced, don't think there's a big gap between them on turners in number of runs they'll make anyway so you can go either way.

I think technically Gavaskar is just much more suited for them. Really a no brainer here personally.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Imran said it.

Also said Kohli>Tendulkar

 

[Johan]

I think technically Gavaskar is just much more suited for them. Really a no brainer here personally.

Gavaskar has a really solid technique against spin but Viv from what I say almost destroys it using Sehwag esque tactics.

 

[Johan]

Also said Kohli>Tendulkar

He is the resident Tendulkar hater, taught a generation of Pakistani cricketers to hate Tendulkar.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Gavaskar has a really solid technique against spin but Viv from what I say almost destroys it using Sehwag esque tactics.

He isn't Sehwagesque to spin though. Solid record early career, but not Sehwagesque anyways.

 

[Johan]

He isn't Sehwagesque to spin though. Solid record early career, but not Sehwagesque anyways.

his 109* at Delhi in 87 too is a display against Spin bowling, I don't think he's literally Sehwag but pretty much a top tier ATG against spin or pace for me.

 

[capt_Luffy]

his 109* at Delhi in 87 too is a display against Spin bowling, I don't think he's literally Sehwag but pretty much a top tier ATG against spin or pace for me.

Not bad but the Indian spin bowling was mid asf and it wasn't really a spinner's paradise

 

[Johan]

Not bad but the Indian spin bowling was mid asf and it wasn't really a spinner's paradise

Arshad Ayub got 4 of the 5 falling wickets so unless he was a great bowler there was definitely something for spin, agreed on the mid attack part.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Arshad Ayub got 4 of the 5 falling wickets so unless he was a great bowler there was definitely something for spin, agreed on the mid attack part.

In the first innings spinners got 1 while WI cruised to 125..... And in the 2nd Ayub got 4, but WI scored 246 rather easily for a 4th innings chase. As a 4th innings Indian pitch, it's hard to rate it particularly spin friendly, especially compared to an average 4th innings Indian pitch. Harper bowled 12 odd overs in the 3rd innings out of 113 and not because the pacers were blasting everything.

 

[Johan]

In the first innings spinners got 1 while WI cruised to 125..... And in the 2nd Ayub got 4, but WI scored 246 rather easily for a 4th innings chase. As a 4th innings Indian pitch, it's hard to rate it particularly spin friendly, especially compared to an average 4th innings Indian pitch. Harper bowled 12 odd overs in the 3rd innings out of 113 and not because the pacers were blasting everything.

take out Viv's runs and what did WI make in the second inning?

 

[capt_Luffy]

take out Viv's runs and what did WI make in the second inning?

I already said it was a Very Good innings, but not necessarily a Very Good innings vs high quality spin or in tough turner

 

[Johan]

I already said it was a Very Good innings, but not necessarily a Very Good innings vs high quality spin or in tough turner

well, you can only work with what you're given.

 

[capt_Luffy]

well, you can only work with what you're given.

Yeah, like how Gavaskar isn't rated in Australia by some at all despite averaging good 50+, for Lillee going to play elsewhere.

On point, it was a Very Good knock, but necessarily doesn't solidifies Viv's case here.

 

[Johan]

Yeah, like how Gavaskar isn't rated in Australia by some at all despite averaging good 50+, for Lillee going to play elsewhere.

On point, it was a Very Good knock, but necessarily doesn't solidifies Viv's case here.

I don't think either really has anything that gives a definitive or strong edge against spin over the other as far as tests go.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I don't think either really has anything that gives a definitive or strong edge against spin over the other as far as tests go.

Don't now bring things like "it's only Test" now. If you really want to say Gavaskar has nothing over Viv in SC, I will say Viv has nothing over him in Australia.

 

[Johan]

Don't now bring things like "it's only Test" now. If you really want to say Gavaskar has nothing over Viv in SC, I will say Viv has nothing over him in Australia.

I will give you Gavaskar is better in India if you give me Viv is better in Port of Spain and Bourda type wickets