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  1. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    We're talking about sportsmanship...what about courtesy? Murali should have had the courtesy to wait until the ball had been returned to the keeper. :sleep: Couldn't agree more. It's good enough for everyone else. Why wasn't it good enough for him? 8-)
  2. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    Then we are going to have to agree to disagree. The rule is there for a reason and it doesn't change whether someone is going to pick up a tissue, do some gardening, fix his box, play with himself, get 100, have ***, or anything else he can think of. To me the bottom line is that Murali...
  3. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    Let me get this straight. You are saying that it's ok for a guy to wander out of his crease while the ball is in MID AIR on its way back to the keeper, solely because a guy has made 100?
  4. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    Oh ok.. the traditionalists say the game is still a gentleman's game so let's all agree shall we? I'm sorry but I think what happened back in 1977 changed all that. It wasn't The Establishment that won that battle. I have no problem with some slack being applied. I'd have a problem with...
  5. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    So you DO think the rules should be changed to accommodate guys when they make their milestones. Ok then, let's just reward Murali for being the one stupid enough to leave his crease while the ball was still on its way back to the keeper. In addition, let's penalise all the other blokes who...
  6. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    Why do we bring it up? Because there is a perpetual myth that cricket is still a gentleman's game. It hasn't been for a long time and, in the modern era, is fully professional. I would expect professionals to do anything and everything they can in order to win the game - without cheating of...
  7. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    I don't understand why people are still going on about this (ok..so I am too :P). If Murali had wandered out of his crease for any other reason than to congratulate Sanga, no one would have batted an eyelid. They would have just said how stupid he was. So why does Sanga's 100 suddenly make a...
  8. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    Sri Lanka do it more often? Maybe of late- but this is the country who threatened to sue the ICC on the basis of racism if Murali was banned. And Ranatunga refused to shake hands with Mark Taylor after an ODI at the MCG during which there were a number of incidents. Pot calling the kettle...
  9. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    Hear hear!!! Cricket USED to be a gentleman's game. It hasn't been since Bodyline.
  10. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    "Players take it for granted, once the ball's gone you're allowed a certain leeway when it comes to courtesies extended between sides," he said. "Murali was out but it's a case of how you want to interpret the rules. A lot is said about match referees and umpires being the guardians of the game...
  11. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    As long as it's a rule that everyone knows - as with the Murali runout - I have no problem with it. All this business about etiquette and sportsmanship is well and good - but where was it when Jardine brought in Bodyline? This is Test cricket people. It's about winning. As Allan Border once...
  12. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    Flem pointed out that the game doesn't stop when someone scores 100 and he's right. How many other batsmen do you see leaving their crease when the ball is still live to go and congratulate their partner? Why didn't he just wait until he KNEW the ball was dead? Sorry, that's crap. And as...
  13. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    How can you feel sorry for someone who had a brain explosion? I'm sorry but Murali has played over 100 tests and should know the rule. He has no one to blame for this but himself.
  14. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    PS : Just by the way, suppose the throw to McCullum had gone ary and crossed the boundary for four overthrows, would Sri Lanka have "returned" those runs ? That's exactly what Fleming said. They would have taken them.
  15. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    I have to laugh when people go on about sportsmanship. Where was that when the Poms invented Bodyline?? And that was over 70 years ago.
  16. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    Here's another view point. I'm an Aussie and I thought the underarm was disgraceful. I was actually there the day that happened and the crowd just went quiet. We knew something significant had happened. But this is Murali's fault - the ball was still very much live and he should have KNOWN...
  17. JF.

    Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

    That's rubbish. The ball was still on its way back to the keeper. People in CLUB cricket know that the ball is still live - what excuse does Murali have? I also agree with someone's comment about what goes in test cricket these days. Keepers appeal to try to avoid being given byes, sledging...
  18. JF.

    Why didn't Ponting enforce the follow on?

    HAHA beautiful sarcasm there... but I don't agree *folds arms*
  19. JF.

    Why didn't Ponting enforce the follow on?

    Couldn't agree more. I've been debating this in another forum for the past couple of days and people over there love nothing more than to hang s**t on me for disagreeing with Punter's decision. The cynic in me, along with McGrath's comment about how there are no bonus points for finishing a...
  20. JF.

    Fleming to pass Arjun Ranatunga

    Crap! NZ cricket was in turmoil when he took over and he settled it down and presided over a period of rebuilding. Not just the team but NZ cricket in general. He has done a fine job as captain. Not just on the field but in what he has done for NZ cricket. And why should he be forced out of...

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