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  1. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    Their overall average went above 40 which is minnow tier, even 80s Sri Lanka had superior bowling output. https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;spanmax1=31+Dec+2009;spanmin1=01+Jan+2000;spanval1=span;team_view=bowl;template=results;type=team their 90s Output as a...
  2. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    Pakistan of Sobers's career and New Zealand of Sachin's career has the same bowling average overall, I don't agree with removing either
  3. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    No they weren't. their batting was below par https://stats.espncricinfo.com/sachin/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;spanmax1=31+Dec+1969;spanmin1=01+Jan+1960;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team bowling wise, their bowling is equivalent to the indian bowling of the 2000s...
  4. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    Nah, more so 2000s — https://stats.espncricinfo.com/sachin/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;spanmax1=31+Dec+2009;spanmin1=01+Jan+2000;spanval1=span;team_view=bowl;template=results;type=team 1990s —...
  5. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    the statistical gap between him and Viv seems to cease on minnow bashing being removed and Sobers seem to get the statistical edge, just found it interesting.
  6. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    I'm gonna assume you aren't talking about Viv because ****ing Hadlee, Pakistan had a monsterous attack and India was often winning too. For Sobers, No...
  7. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    I was talking about career averages which I said directly literally a little later. also, I said 2000s Zimbabwe because their bowling output was minnow level (40+ avg), they won no games nearly and the era was complete flatties, he bashed them well. Sachin's average is definitely inflated a...
  8. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    1. Donald Bradman 2. Jack Hobbs 3. Sachin Tendulkar 4. IVA Richards 5. Garfield Sobers 6. Len Hutton 7. Steven Smith 8. Brian Lara 9. Wally Hammond 10. Herbert Sutcliffe 11. Sunil Gavaskar 12. George Headley 13. Graeme Pollock 14. Allan Border 15. Steve Waugh
  9. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    My list still has problems at #3/#4 sadly
  10. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    knew you had Hammond high but didn't knew you had him #5 all time high
  11. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    uhhhh ballsy list
  12. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    tbh Kohli would be even crazier
  13. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    drop your top 15 rn
  14. Johan

    Battle of the Opener Knocks

    Sehwag. greatest display of batting against spin ever, period. Gavaskar. it came against peak Botham. Atherton. faced better bowlers. Cook. Set the tone for the rest of the series. Anwar.
  15. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    I'm talking about career averages, 90s included his average away falls to 50.6 without minnow (2000s Ban and Zimbabwe) bashing, interesting as in that's quite a drop.
  16. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    more ATG tours, tougher conditions, much higher SR, destruction of ATGs like no one ever has done.
  17. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    Looks like without 2000s Zimbabwe and Bangladesh minnow bashing, Sachin averaged 50.65, interesting.
  18. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    Viv's peak was 35 matches where he was averaging like 71 Smith's peak was 52 matches where he was averaging 75
  19. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Viv Richards

    Viv. more destructive, almost equivalent peak and a lesser decline.
  20. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    @DrWolverine just wondering, what's Sachin's 1992-2011 average without 2000s Zimbabwe and Bangladesh bashing? would be fair, considering Barrington got no real minnows to murder and Viv never got SL.

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