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  1. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Viv Richards

    he averages 42 odd since Ashes 2019, which includes his 200* on an extreme flattie against Windies, post-prime Viv was better. all you've to do is bowl an offcutter with pace to him these days, he'll either miss and get LBWed or nick it to the keeper.
  2. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Viv Richards

    "I'll exclude the ATG year! Hah! let's see how he stacks up then!" Viv from 79-88 averaged 50+ anyway over 75-76 tests, Dravid doesn't belong in this convo lol.
  3. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Viv Richards

    Peak Smith being better than Peak Viv is a fine take overall to have (I'll argue against it) and but his decline is even steeper, Viv was still a beast until early 1989 whereas Smith has done nothing since Ashes 2019 bar a good WTC final knock against a Bumrahless India, if he plays for as long...
  4. Johan

    Barry Richards vs Geoffrey Boycott

    I don't think English fans rate him as ATG, He is rated as a great player but a piece of trash all around that isn't wanted as a representative of the nation.
  5. Johan

    Ricky Ponting vs Geoffrey Boycott

    the answer is obvious but I can think of quite a few cricketing situations where I'd rather have Boycott than Ponting, so voting it to be close.
  6. Johan

    Young Lara vs Old Lara

    1993-1995 Lara vs 2001-2005 Lara, what was his peak?
  7. Johan

    Better knock : Ian Botham 149* or VVS Laxman 281

    Inning — VVS performance — Botham
  8. Johan

    Better peak : Viv(1976-1981) or Smith(2014-2019)

    Viv.
  9. Johan

    Imran Khan vs Kapil Dev

    got you
  10. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    Thompson bowled pretty well in the serieses leading upto the first test and bowled a bunch there for Viv's hundred, but I don't really think Viv took apart a pace battery but one ATG + alright support, I don't really think anyone in this thread presented 79-80 as a pace battery being taken apart?
  11. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    isn't the entire point about the 79/80 series the performance against Lillee supported by Thompson/Hogg in the first game, Hogg/Dymock in second and Dymock/Pascoe in third
  12. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Viv Richards

    Viv's 76-81 was better than Smith's 2014-2019
  13. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    I don't think 2000 Bangladeshi pitches are something extremely difficult, and their bowler's home averages at the time reflect that.
  14. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

  15. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    worth more — the runs against the non-test standard attack, as the team is in a tricky situation. requires a higher level of skill — hundred against one of the top eight sides, as the bowlers are superior. technically the hundred against Bangladesh was more valuable than the 241 against...
  16. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Viv Richards

    can someone explain Smith>Viv to me?
  17. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    first of all, I don't give two shits about Lara, he isn't my favourite or anything close but considering this is England slander.... 375 came against Angus Fraser (27 avg) and Andy Caddick (29 avg) both using the new ball and were good bowlers. 400 came against...
  18. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    first of all, you're clearly getting emotional over someone saying 2000s Zimbabwe and Bangladesh were minnows, cut it out, I'm not interested in discussing with an individual who wants to get personal over normal ass debates about a sport. 3 50+ averaging bowlers, one 45 averaging bowler and...
  19. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    Yeah, I think Hobbs, Sobers, Viv and Sachin are all about the exact same level as each other, just don't think one has a statistical edge as blunt as people make it out to be.
  20. Johan

    Steven Smith vs Dale Steyn

    another reason Ponting is in the dirt :)

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