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    Kallis Vs Wasim

    Ponting came nowhere near to overtaking Sachin's career. If you want to use minority reactionary opinions, plenty of RSA fans thought Kallis had overtaken Sachin. This isn't evidence of anything other than the fact that ratings can be dumb. Viv debuting in 95 would not have been able to catch...
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    Kallis Vs Wasim

    The best bowlers mostly just found something that worked and put it on repeat until it stopped working. Not Akram. He had all the tools except 1-consistently putting the ball in the right area. It's a tool that bowlers can succeed without, but of all tools, it's the most valuable
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    Kallis Vs Wasim

    His average is OK. Not great by the standards of the players he usually is compared to, but not particularly problematic. The WPM is low. It's partly due to stuff like length of career and competition, but also speaks to the same problem as his quality of wickets. If you are struggling to knock...
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    Richard Hadlee vs Imran Khan

    He does suggest a gulf. But where the spinners go is not evidence of it. They have to go somewhere, and if it's not on top, they will always fall between somewhat comparable bowlers.
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    Who is the best old ball bowler of all-time?

    Wrong person to address this to. I don't really rate him. I'm just happy to give him his due on aspects of his game I do rate.
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    Kallis Vs Wasim

    I think your quality of wicket analysis explains a big part of why Wasim is so low on ICC rankings. Quality of wickets is a part of of the ranking methodology, and likely a fairly big one. I don't think that the ICC rankings fairly reflect his performances. But I also think the quality of...
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    Who is the best old ball bowler of all-time?

    Mainly cutters in relation to the people being discussed. Yorkers, slower balls, bounce. Jack of all trades.
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    Kallis Vs Wasim

    A truly crap bat would have had a chance to have (briefly) enjoyed a better career than Sachin if they debuted at the same time. Bradman debuting 20 years later would not overtake Sachin's career while Sachin was still going. I think Lara had a somewhat decent case to be ranked ahead of Sachin...
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    Kallis Vs Wasim

    Lara debuted at basically the same time as Sachin. People who debuted later are not only having to compete with a best after Bradman candidate, but also play catch up. Kallis would have had to have a far better bat than Lara to pull ahead of Sachin's career. 2011 and sometime in Kallis' mid...
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    Kallis Vs Wasim

    Sachin shut anyone worse than a clear best after Bradman out for decades on career rating. I gave you a huge list of number 1 ratings for Kallis based on form. Not sure what else you want. Nobody is disputing a number of players being ahead of him early in his career (on overall careers). That...
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    Kallis Vs Wasim

    You are picking and choosing the ratings you give stock to as suits your agenda. All the examples of Kallis being rated as a form bat- ignored. Kallis not being rated as a form bat (the above notwithstanding)- valid. Kallis not being the best from his era- valid, depite Akram coming off as...
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    Kallis Vs Wasim

    We aren't conflating AR and batting ratings. It's a question of why differing ratings by the same people on the same player would hold weight when they confirm your opinion but not when they run contrary to it. Similarly, why put stock in Wasim's peer rating when you yourself disagree with it...
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    Kallis Vs Wasim

    If you think Kallis is rated both poorly and highly, why do you accept the poor rating as evidence of something, but not the high one?
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    Kallis Vs Wasim

    Except for the ICC, CW, the commentators, the media I read, everyone I met at the time, a bunch of players, myself, and his actual record...I don't know anyone who recognized Kallis as the best form bat at stages. OFC, it's not universal. It almost never is. I didn't know that anyone rated peak...
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    Wasim Akram among his peers

    I did. In the post you are responding to.
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    Wasim Akram among his peers

    I'm just noting how badly visitors did. Junk bowlers at the time who mostly relied on swing, ATG batting, pitches, and a team strong enough that you seldom get to bowl at the tail are all factors.
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    Wasim Akram among his peers

    48 for visiting quicks is brutal. This is a country that is supposed to be kinder to pace than spin as well.
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    Kallis Vs Wasim

    Search Kallisball on this website. I think it's safe to say that when people rename the sport after a player, they rate him. Not even his best (extended) form. Plenty of people recognized how good his form was in the mid 2000s. You will always have a bunch of people calling a player on top of...
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    Kallis Vs Wasim

    The Bradman example also applies to Sachin. Nobody who debuted from the mid 90s till his retirement could be ranked better than him, unless it is on form. On form, if you think nobody ranked Kallis top, you weren't paying attention. You also rank Marshall, Imran, and (I assume) Hadlee over...
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    Kallis Vs Wasim

    Kane could play for 20+ years under this scenario, end up the 2nd best bat of all time, and never be rated the best bat in the world. The numerous obvious problems of rankings aside, a player very much can end up ranked 13th when the players typically ranked above him ended higher on the list...

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