Indian Cricket Dhaba

[Sunil1z]

Vice captaincy to Gill when he hasn’t scored a 50 outside Asia in last 4 years ?

Give it to Jaiswal and hope he becomes next Graeme Smith .

 

[Nintendo]

So obviously assuming we lose this series 3-1 (and really the decent thing we can do is to draw this test and let SL make the final if they beat Aus 2-0), how is the reset gonna look like?

For me, the best available option is to take away the all format captaincy from one MI guy and hand it over to 3 different MI guys.

Tests - Rohit -> Bumrah
ODIs - Rohit -> Hardik
T20Is - Rohit -> SKY (already done tbf)

I also think RoKO both wont play for India in any format. Then maybe something like this -

T20Is	ODIs	Tests
Yashaswi Jaiswal	Yashaswi Jaiswal	Yashaswi Jaiswal
Sanju Samson (wk)	Shubman Gill (vc)	K L Rahul
Tilak Verma	Tilak Verma	Sai Sudharshan
Surya Kumar Yadav (c)	Sanju Samson (wk)	Shubman Gill (vc)
Rinku Singh	Rinku Singh	Rishabh Pant (wk)
Hardik Pandya (vc)	Hardik Pandya (c)	Nitish Kumar Reddy
Axar Patel	Axar Patel	Ravindra Jadeja
Washington Sundar	Washington Sundar	Washington Sundar
Kuldeep Yadav	Kuldeep Yadav	Kuldeep Yadav / Akash Deep
Jasprit Bumrah	Jasprit Bumrah	Jasprit Bumrah (c)
Mohammed Siraj	Mohammed Siraj	Mohammed Siraj

Making bumrah test captain and expecting him to play even semi regularly in LOI is suicidal IMO.

 

[honestbharani]

Making bumrah test captain and expecting him to play even semi regularly in LOI is suicidal IMO.

Well, tbf, I should have clarified those were our best potential 11s but I totally understand resting most of the test players for JAMLO series all the time.

 

[govinda indian fan]

So obviously assuming we lose this series 3-1 (and really the decent thing we can do is to draw this test and let SL make the final if they beat Aus 2-0), how is the reset gonna look like?

For me, the best available option is to take away the all format captaincy from one MI guy and hand it over to 3 different MI guys.

Tests - Rohit -> Bumrah
ODIs - Rohit -> Hardik
T20Is - Rohit -> SKY (already done tbf)

I also think RoKO both wont play for India in any format. Then maybe something like this -

T20Is	ODIs	Tests
Yashaswi Jaiswal	Yashaswi Jaiswal	Yashaswi Jaiswal
Sanju Samson (wk)	Shubman Gill (vc)	K L Rahul
Tilak Verma	Tilak Verma	Sai Sudharshan
Surya Kumar Yadav (c)	Sanju Samson (wk)	Shubman Gill (vc)
Rinku Singh	Rinku Singh	Rishabh Pant (wk)
Hardik Pandya (vc)	Hardik Pandya (c)	Nitish Kumar Reddy
Axar Patel	Axar Patel	Ravindra Jadeja
Washington Sundar	Washington Sundar	Washington Sundar
Kuldeep Yadav	Kuldeep Yadav	Kuldeep Yadav / Akash Deep
Jasprit Bumrah	Jasprit Bumrah	Jasprit Bumrah (c)
Mohammed Siraj	Mohammed Siraj	Mohammed Siraj

Of course, rest the guys who play red ball from JAMLOs as much as possible.

Abhishek Sharma for Jaiswal.
Any spin bowling AR for Washy.
Varun C/Ravi Bishnoi for Kuldeep.
Arshdeep Singh for Bumrah.
Next best seamer for Siraj.

and so on.

Pant should be test captain
And need somebody who can bowl reverse swing in test xi

 

[govinda indian fan]

Umran malik if he can learn reverse would be quite lethal in india/sc

 

[govinda indian fan]

Need pradosh ranjan paul and raj bawa to have good fc season. Both can be future of indian cricket

 

[Shri]

bumrah should only ever play world cups and test cricket tbh

 

[govinda indian fan]

Need to find replacement for shami. Tall skidy bowler who bowls at stumps. Mayank yadav has played much fc and is injury prone. Hope umran malik learns reverse swing he is shami lite with 10kph more pace

 

[govinda indian fan]

Dont know why kuldeep sen isnt playing. He is quick skiddy
dumb selectors

 

[Daemon]

Need to find replacement for shami. Tall skidy bowler who bowls at stumps. Mayank yadav has played much fc and is injury prone. Hope umran malik learns reverse swing he is shami lite with 10kph more pace

Dont know why kuldeep sen isnt playing. He is quick skiddy
dumb selectors

these are terrible suggestions

 

[SkyBlue]

So obviously assuming we lose this series 3-1 (and really the decent thing we can do is to draw this test and let SL make the final if they beat Aus 2-0), how is the reset gonna look like?

For me, the best available option is to take away the all format captaincy from one MI guy and hand it over to 3 different MI guys.

Tests - Rohit -> Bumrah
ODIs - Rohit -> Hardik
T20Is - Rohit -> SKY (already done tbf)

I also think RoKO both wont play for India in any format. Then maybe something like this -

T20Is	ODIs	Tests
Yashaswi Jaiswal	Yashaswi Jaiswal	Yashaswi Jaiswal
Sanju Samson (wk)	Shubman Gill (vc)	K L Rahul
Tilak Verma	Tilak Verma	Sai Sudharshan
Surya Kumar Yadav (c)	Sanju Samson (wk)	Shubman Gill (vc)
Rinku Singh	Rinku Singh	Rishabh Pant (wk)
Hardik Pandya (vc)	Hardik Pandya (c)	Nitish Kumar Reddy
Axar Patel	Axar Patel	Ravindra Jadeja
Washington Sundar	Washington Sundar	Washington Sundar
Kuldeep Yadav	Kuldeep Yadav	Kuldeep Yadav / Akash Deep
Jasprit Bumrah	Jasprit Bumrah	Jasprit Bumrah (c)
Mohammed Siraj	Mohammed Siraj	Mohammed Siraj

Of course, rest the guys who play red ball from JAMLOs as much as possible.

Abhishek Sharma for Jaiswal.
Any spin bowling AR for Washy.
Varun C/Ravi Bishnoi for Kuldeep.
Arshdeep Singh for Bumrah.
Next best seamer for Siraj.

and so on.

Pretty sure the likes of Rahul and Iyer will still be in the reckoning for ODI's. Putting Rinku ahead of Rahul and/or Iyer seems pretty bold imo

 

[govinda indian fan]

According to hindustan times rohit is set to be out of test cricket and virat too is in line after sydney test would finnally open chances to youngstars. We might lose some games but atleast have excuse of young team

 

[cnerd123]

We need young blood.

Young Batters:

Abhimanyu Easwaran (29)
Ruturaj Gaikwad (27)
Rinku Singh (27)
Abhishek Sharma (24)
Devdutt Padikkal (24)
Riyan Parag (23)
Dhruv Jurel (23)
Sai Sudharsan (23)
Tilak Verma (22)

Young Pacers:

Praisdh Krishna (28)
Khaleel Ahmed (28)
Akash Deep (28)
Yash Dayal (27)
Ishan Porel (26)
Shivam Mavi (26)
Kamlesh Nagarkoti (25)
Umran Malik (25)
Arshdeep Singh (25)
Harshit Rana (23)
Mayank Yadav (22)

Surely we can turn some of these guys into test standard players?

I would keep Jaiswal, Axar, Kuldeep, Pant, Siraj, Sundar, Reddy and Sarfraz as the core of the side for the next WTC cycle, and hold on to Bumrah and Lokesh for as long as we can. Gill should be axed and earn his way back through weight of runs in red ball cricket. Kohli, Rohit, Jadeja retired.

Tanush Kotian is an interesting one. Called up for this series but hasn't played, should perhaps get a Test series at some point so we can see what he can do. But given we already have Kuldeep, Axar and Sundar jawing for that spinner's role it could be tough.

 

[Niall]

Not trolling here, but I do think India could lose 5-0 in England if Bumrah isn't their.

Their is just nothing I like about any likely line up...

Jaiswal is good, but a first tour of England is always tough, Rahul will have one or two good knocks but will ultimately have a poor series because that's what he does.

I don't know if they have the guts to drop Gill and if they do it will be for some IPL blaster rather than someone like Sai which won't end well.

Kohli may hang on when he really shouldn't. Washy and Reddy will be smashed in England and probably won't score a run.

Bowling wise, even if Bumrah has avoided a horror injury , he will be rushed back for the IPL and won't be able for 5 tests in England.

Shami hopefully has one final hurrah in England because he is so needed, but after that , who are the bowlers that can take wickets in England?

 

[honestbharani]

Test Cricket -

Bumrah - full time captain
Pant - full time vice captain

Openers - Jaiswal, Easwaran, Rahul, Ruturaj Gaekwad

Middle Order Batters - Shubman Gill, Sai Sudarshan, Sarfraz Khan, Riyan Parag, Rinku Singh, Devdutt Padikkal, Tilak Verma, Nitish Kumar Reddy.

Keepers - Rishabh Pant, Dhruv Jurel

Fast Bowlers - Bumrah, Arshdeep Singh, Akash Deep, Prasidh Krishna, Mohammed Siraj, Harshit Rana, Yash Dayal

Spinners - Ravindra Jadeja, Axar Patel, Washington Sundar, Kuldeep Yadav

Now, obviously the first thing that jumps out is that all of our spinners bar Kuldeep are basically allrounders. But in SENA conditions especially now that Ashwin has retired, we will need Kuldeep to be a factor. This just means when we go to England we have to try to bat a 5-9 of Pant, NKR, Jaddu/Washy, Harshit Rana, Kuldeep Yadav.

This means the selectors have to plan ahead, get these guys enough bowling to get used to test match workloads and maybe even find county deals for most of them, even Pant if possible. The IPL ends in May. The England tests start in July. The 100 usually happens in August if I am not wrong. This gives us the county games in June and July to get this lot prepared. If Bumrah is not fit, Siraj, Arshdeep and Harshit should be our main seam attack with NKR for support. Kuldeep as our main spinner with Jaddu/Washy for support. This just leaves the top 4 to sort itself out. I still think Gill can go well as he showed he can learn and adapt in that England series at home. But again, it has to be a form and evidence based call if he is selected. Personally, I would go -

Jaiswal
Rahul
Sudarshan
Gill/Gaekwad
Pant (wk) (c)
NKR
Washy
Harshit
Kuldeep
Arshdeep
Akash

as our bowling attack. Siraj tried hard here but its obvious he is not leadership material with the ball. Prasidh has attributes but also bowls too many 4 balls and his height may not be a point of difference on the softer wickets in England. Obviously if Bumrah is fit he plays ahead of Akash. Maybe Akash can still play ahead of Harshit if he is more impressive in those conditions.

 

[govinda indian fan]

Not trolling here, but I do think India could lose 5-0 in England if Bumrah isn't their.

Their is just nothing I like about any likely line up...

Jaiswal is good, but a first tour of England is always tough, Rahul will have one or two good knocks but will ultimately have a poor series because that's what he does.

I don't know if they have the guts to drop Gill and if they do it will be for some IPL blaster rather than someone like Sai which won't end well.

Kohli may hang on when he really shouldn't. Washy and Reddy will be smashed in England and probably won't score a run.

Bowling wise, even if Bumrah has avoided a horror injury , he will be rushed back for the IPL and won't be able for 5 tests in England.

Shami hopefully has one final hurrah in England because he is so needed, but after that , who are the bowlers that can take wickets in England?

Na think we would be competitive in england. English pitches are lot flatter and our batters would do better then in Australia esp with no broad and Anderson but yes we need to drop rohit and kohli. I do think washy and reddy might do well in england but as you said it will be tough in England

 

[govinda indian fan]

Test Cricket -

Bumrah - full time captain
Pant - full time vice captain

Openers - Jaiswal, Easwaran, Rahul.

Middle Order Batters - Shubman Gill, Sai Sudarshan, Gaekwad, Riyan Parag, Rinku Singh, Devdutt Padikkal, Tilak Verma, Nitish Kumar Reddy.

Keepers - Rishabh Pant, Dhruv Jurel

Fast Bowlers - Bumrah, Arshdeep Singh, Akash Deep, Prasidh Krishna, Mohammed Siraj, Harshit Rana, Yash Dayal

Spinners - Ravindra Jadeja, Axar Patel, Washington Sundar, Kuldeep Yadav

Now, obviously the first thing that jumps out is that all of our spinners bar Kuldeep are basically allrounders. But in SENA conditions especially now that Ashwin has retired, we will need Kuldeep to be a factor. This just means when we go to England we have to try to bat a 5-9 of Pant, NKR, Jaddu/Washy, Harshit Rana, Kuldeep Yadav.

This means the selectors have to plan ahead, get these guys enough bowling to get used to test match workloads and maybe even find county deals for most of them, even Pant if possible. The IPL ends in May. The England tests start in July. The 100 usually happens in August if I am not wrong. This gives us the county games in June and July to get this lot prepared. If Bumrah is not fit, Siraj, Arshdeep and Harshit should be our main seam attack with NKR for support. Kuldeep as our main spinner with Jaddu/Washy for support. This just leaves the top 4 to sort itself out. I still think Gill can go well as he showed he can learn and adapt in that England series at home. But again, it has to be a form and evidence based call if he is selected. Personally, I would go -

Jaiswal
Rahul
Sudarshan
Gill/Gaekwad
Pant (wk) (c)
NKR
Washy
Harshit
Kuldeep
Arshdeep
Akash

as our bowling attack. Siraj tried hard here but its obvious he is not leadership material with the ball. Prasidh has attributes but also bowls too many 4 balls and his height may not be a point of difference on the softer wickets in England. Obviously if Bumrah is fit he plays ahead of Akash. Maybe Akash can still play ahead of Harshit if he is more impressive in those conditions.

Gill must be droped. We must stop this obsession with all format cricketers. Better go horses for courses

 

[humaiyun.hibas]

Cricket in Australia is heaven.
If only all conditions were Australian conditions.

I am in love with the Australian brand of cricket, where bowlers have speed and bopunce but no swing.

 

[Sunil1z]

Why should I laugh alone

 

[centurymaker]

Na think we would be competitive in england. English pitches are lot flatter and our batters would do better then in Australia esp with no broad and Anderson but yes we need to drop rohit and kohli. I do think washy and reddy might do well in england but as you said it will be tough in England

Since Bazball, the pitches in England have flattened. Their attacking approach otherwise wouldn't be so successful (if the ball was zipping around). So the pitches will help Indian batting. However the bowling could really struggle as Bazballers will keep going after them all day. I think Arshdeep is a must there as he has limited over's experience and can swing the ball and is a left armer. Need bowlers who can respond well when under attack. I think limited overs experience will come in handy against bazball.

I doubt Kohli will be dropped. UK is his home so he will play. I expect pretty much the same top 7 to feature against England unless someone does brilliantly in the India A v England A games right before the series.

Rahul
Jaiswal
Gill (most likely)
Kohli
Pant
Reddy / Jurel
Jadeja

I personally think Reddy is not good enough to play in top 6. Neither is current version of Jadeja. So I would ideally like a proper batsman to play at 6 and only one of Jadeja and Reddy in the side followed by 4 specialist bowlers.