For me, you do need someone who can reverse it to make it a complete attack for all eras and conditions. And reverse is part of his primary skills so you can't compare it with Kallis' secondary set.
Why do we have to trade better batting skills for being a better rest bowler?
Jeez you’re insufferable sometimes. The whole point of that was batsmen who took the most deliveries to dismiss. Go whinge about how you hate low SR’s somewhere else.
Don’t be silly, long posts are one of the signatures of the relationship between the two of you.
Hadlee, Marshall and Steyn is fine.
I agree in the sense that it is silly to ignore Imran lower order batting speciality.
We probably would if there were two better quicks than both of them and picking McGrath would force Warne or Marshall to bat 8.
Give me Chandrasekhar over Gibbs and we can talk!
So only you're allowed to be insufferable and winge?
Myself and other posters were literally talking about players who could occupy the crease or “grinders” in fact you brought the topic up in the first place, no? Just so you could come back and push your negative agenda for the thousandth time.
Not sure that's a thing. He was a master of reverse and that's not to mention that the 3rd seamer gets a shot at the new ball as well.
You did notice that Hadlee (and Wasim) are capable of filling that role. And if one believes that Steyn is better than Imran for his primary, then there's nothing wrong with that selection.
And just another point. If Bumrah make it to 300 wickets and makes it a 4 man GOAT discussion, I wonder if this argument would still prevail.
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A comment is pushing a negative agenda?
Given Sachin is much ahead of Kallis, while the difference in Imran and Steyn is marginal at best, no it won't. Now think you are going with a team with 5 bowlers, would you take Sachin over Sobers??? Surely not, because Sachin is a marginally better bat than Sobers, enough to make Sobers' 6th bowling enough to overcome. Even thinking Steyn is better than Imran in primary (most thinks that, including me), you absolutely have to think they have a massive difference to overcome a batting average difference of 30.
What do you want to point at dude?? If given a choice between my life and Bumrah's, I will save his. Doesn't means even then I have reason to take him ahead of Imran. I can't see him doing so good to end up MUCH (focus on the word) better than Marshall, McGrath and Hadlee.
1. Think you missed the point. What I'm saying is that if I have Hadlee in my team already, the need for the extra batting is minimal and if I believe Steyn is the better bowler, I'm free to go with him. That's it.
kyear2's point is that if A is a better bowler than B, then A should be automatically included even if B bats like Bradman.
I will say that in my XI my first thought is picking the best specialists - then I look at the team balance and see if anything needs changing. Fortunately for me it didn’t.
And that is fine, my first XI probably has a significant overlap with yours, except I would have Imran instead of McGrath, and I might have Sunny and Viv in there instead of Sutcliffe and Hammond.