2000s debutant test XI

[govinda indian fan]

If Sanga is keeping, do you even need 6 other specialist batsmen?? Think a Jadeja/Shakib/Stokes fits better.

Right

 

[trundler]

Smith
Sehwag
Sangakkara
Smith
Younis
De Villiers+
Jadeja
Ashwin
Cummins
Steyn
Bumrah


This is the only correct XI.

Edit: Watling keeping is also viable.

 

[Majestic]

Smith
Sehwag
Sangakkara
Smith
Younis
De Villiers+
Jadeja
Ashwin
Cummins
Steyn
Bumrah


This is the only correct XI.

Edit: Watling keeping is also viable.

Root > Younis

 

[capt_Luffy]

Root > Younis

It's fine to rate Kohli, Root, Williamson, Younis and ABD in any order imo.

 

[trundler]

Root > Younis

Incorrect.

 

[GIMH]

Incorrect.

Nope it is in fact correct

 

[trundler]

Nope it is in fact correct

I just checked and it isn't. Younis still has more tons despite playing 25 fewer games (even though he had a longer career, English test spam etc).

 

[GIMH]

I just checked and it isn't. Younis still has more tons despite playing 25 fewer games (even though he had a longer career, English test spam etc).

Played in the pancake era FACT FACT FACT

 

[trundler]

Played in the pancake era FACT FACT FACT

Actually knew how to score tons

 

[PlayerComparisons]

I just checked and it isn't. Younis still has more tons despite playing 25 fewer games (even though he had a longer career, English test spam etc).

And Younis succeeded up the order and in Australia.

 

[GIMH]

Actually knew how to score tons

Tbf jokes aside his record is kind of better than I remember it being.

Pakistan in the 00s had some batting line up

 

[capt_Luffy]

Tbf jokes aside his record is kind of better than I remember it being.

Pakistan in the 00s had some batting line up

You can't say that. Insult Younis and hype up Root or else it's no fun. ENTERTAIN US!!!!

 

[Majestic]

Actually knew how to score tons

Would have struggled big time outside Asia with the way he played pace bowling. He was not an all round player like Joe Root. He was superb vs spin but the difference vs pace is big enough in my opinion.

Younis barely played a lot of matches outside Asia and it helps in boosting stats vs minnow nations as compared to Root who plays 5 tests series vs top teams like India and Australia regularly.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Would have struggled big time outside Asia

But he didn’t lol

 

[Majestic]

But he didn’t lol

He struggled but managed to score runs.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Yeah I think he did have problems with high quality pace but somehow still ended up with an ATG record

 

[reyrey]

He struggled but managed to score runs.

This. I remember often watching Younis look like he was struggling in an away series. First game might get no runs, next game somehow scratches out a ugly 50, final game gets a double hundred despite looking uncomfortable for most of it.

 

[trundler]

Would have struggled big time outside Asia with the way he played pace bowling. He was not an all round player like Joe Root. He was superb vs spin but the difference vs pace is big enough in my opinion.

Younis barely played a lot of matches outside Asia and it helps in boosting stats vs minnow nations as compared to Root who plays 5 tests series vs top teams like India and Australia regularly.

Yeah because Root's record in India and Australia is so outstanding whereas Younis struggled. Rubbish. Root is better in SA and NZ conditions and that's about it. Younis struggled against lateral movement somewhat but he still got runs on tours where he looked like he struggled. He has a 150 everywhere he played. It Root was this super versatile all conditions player, his record would reflect it but it doesn't. Younis thugged out runs despite apparent limitations and Root throws it away when he "shouldn't" much more often but that just makes Younis a more effective batsman. Root's case simply comes down to having a simplistic outlook on what constitutes a more naturally talented batsman. Give me Younis in the vast majority of conditions I doubt he'll go 18 months without scoring a ton.

 

[Majestic]

This. I remember often watching Younis look like he was struggling in an away series. First game might get no runs, next game somehow scratches out a ugly 50, final game gets a double hundred despite looking uncomfortable for most of it.

Younis is no doubt an excellent test player but when you pit him up vs all round top class players like Root, Kohli and de Villiers, I think he would fall short for this reason. It's like not looking comfortable but still keeping a hope that somehow runs will come. That certainly don't boost as much confidence as all round all conditions players like Kohli, de Villiers and Root boost against all types of bowling.

 

[Majestic]

Yeah because Root's record in India and Australia is so outstanding whereas Younis struggled. Rubbish. Root is better in SA and NZ conditions and that's about it. Younis struggled against lateral movement somewhat but he still got runs on tours where he looked like he struggled. He has a 150 everywhere he played. It Root was this super versatile all conditions player, his record would reflect it but it doesn't. Younis thugged out runs despite apparent limitations and Root throws it away when he "shouldn't" much more often but that just makes Younis a more effective batsman. Root's case simply comes down to having a simplistic outlook on what constitutes a more naturally talented batsman. Give me Younis in the vast majority of conditions I doubt he'll go 18 months without scoring a ton.

Root has a good record in India and everywhere else except Australia.

Younis record is poor in South Africa and West Indies. In Australia, it was poor as well but he managed to score a 170+ on a lifeless flat pitch in Sydney in a dead rubber. In high profile games away from home, he is likely to fail as compared to Kohli, Root and de Villiers.

Nonetheless, he is an excellent player of spin and I will pick him in Asia. But outside Asia, certainly No.