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*Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES
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Burgey
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Nah, summers when SL tour here are the worst. They never give a yelp except for randomly winning an ODI v Aus at the SCG each tour. Even when they had an objectively strong side they always sucked here. I know it's only one destination but I got sick of shelling out hard earned on a mob which barely put in grade standard performances.
GIMH
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Think it’s only flibberty tbf, in terms of England fans.
Actually a very good point. England hasn't won a series in West Indies for 20 years and they've only won 2 tests in those 20 years (14T - 2W - 5L - 7D)
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Who you trying to kid?
wpdavid
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tbh I didn't read the thread all that carefully, and I wouldn't want to take a swipe at FJ even if he's not on the money here.
flibbertyjibber
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You can't cherry pick like that though. Even if Pope keeps his average at Stokes captaincy level he will never get near averaging 40 in his career which isn't really good enough.
Duckett I won't criticise as he has a superb record since he came back in and is our best opener since Cook and Strauss. Crawley we know what he is, a player of great innings not a great player, just as likely to fail like this week as come off like last week. He has had a very good 12 months though so hopefully that continues.
mackembhoy
International Regular
Am I missing something here, England are probably the third best Test side in the World.
@flibbertyjibber get away with this looking down at everyone. If we're average than who's actually good in your eyes?
Only India and Australia? If so why you watching cricket anymore if you derive so little joy out of a good test match?
@flibbertyjibber get away with this looking down at everyone. If we're average than who's actually good in your eyes?
Only India and Australia? If so why you watching cricket anymore if you derive so little joy out of a good test match?
mackembhoy
International Regular
Yeah 100 percent I've seen nothing but praise for the Windies from most England fans on the other forum I post on too. All but FJ on here have praised WI.
It's easy to acknowledge the Windies are an inexperienced side, while commending them on batting very well in the first dig and dismissing our final 7 for 96 in our second dig.
Sides don't prepare for away tours anymore it's hard for sides to get going in conditions they've barely played in now.
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GIMH
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It’s not cherry picking when we’re talking about how good the side is now
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mackembhoy
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There is no point playing cricket anymore we didn't win a series against Australia and India.
Groundking
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wpdavid
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Where Stokes has been really good is giving his team-mates the confidence to go out there and perform, instead of being intimidated by international cricket. Bashir and Hartley are obvious examples. Maybe Atkinson, although it's very early days. Probably Brook although he's talented enough to do something at this level whoever's in charge. Pope and Crawley probably. Bairstow's upturn in 2022 before be was too injured and too fat. I suppose I'm saying that he's got the side to be more than the sum of its parts. Go back 12 months, and I thought we'd lose 3-1 to Australia because, man-for-man, that looked the likeliest outcome. Well that didn't happen, did it. I'm old enough and grumpy enough to be unhappy with some of the performances some of the time, but lets give the ginger bugger credit where due. And, by extension, let's give the side some credit too.
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I should have included Duckett in that list of course. Not just because his test figures have been so much better than what he previously managed, as that was eons ago. But more because he's had the freedom to play the way he does. And, without checking, I suspect that his test performances since he returned to the side are significantly better than his CC stats would have suggested. And then there are the individual performances. Jacks taking a six-fer on debut was ridiculous. Ahmed is at least a proper bowler, but to come in and take a five-for on debut and at his age was quite something. Then there's Joverton scoring 97 on debut against a decent NZ attack who had reduced us to 55 for 6. I think it happens too often to be a coincidence.
EDIT
I should have included Duckett in that list of course. Not just because his test figures have been so much better than what he previously managed, as that was eons ago. But more because he's had the freedom to play the way he does. And, without checking, I suspect that his test performances since he returned to the side are significantly better than his CC stats would have suggested. And then there are the individual performances. Jacks taking a six-fer on debut was ridiculous. Ahmed is at least a proper bowler, but to come in and take a five-for on debut and at his age was quite something. Then there's Joverton scoring 97 on debut against a decent NZ attack who had reduced us to 55 for 6. I think it happens too often to be a coincidence.
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Burgey
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It’s only a rort if you aren’t in on it
CartyDurham
International Captain
The strange thing in the recent postings is that I’ve got most of them on ignore basically as they post to annoy and nothing else
Also most of them never posted in match time
says a lot that imo and now they are getting a kick out of contrary posts
Also most of them never posted in match time
says a lot that imo and now they are getting a kick out of contrary posts
flibbertyjibber
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Says the bloke who hasn't been here for most of the last year.
CartyDurham
International Captain
But the bloke who takes part when England are playing at home
I don’t have to justify anything to the likes of you and I clearly touched a nerve with you ,
this is the last time I respond to you as it’s as clear as day what you like to do
goodbye