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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
Hypothetical question - is it easier for an opener to transition to the middle order, or easier for a middle order batsman to transition to an opener?
 
B

Bolo.

International Captain
CricketFan90s said:
An Important point you need to understand is that in the time Keith Miller played Ashes was taken very seriously and other tournaments are not so important. His record against England was very good and doesn’t need to be tested in all conditions. His relationship with Bradman or their views doesn’t matter here. Miller was too talented in his time and some people were envious of him including Bradman. Show a Statistical proof why he doesn’t fit in as 3rd bowler.
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Are you picking an Ashes XI or an all time one?

He's a 3wpm bowler. Taking 20 wickets from another ATG side is a challenge. Stats are not just career averages.

With him in as 4th you have huge holes across WI and the SC. Only 1 to 2 who were actually successful in each country.
 
Q

Qlder

International Debutant
Coronis said:
Hypothetical question - is it easier for an opener to transition to the middle order, or easier for a middle order batsman to transition to an opener?
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It'll be confirmed soon after an ATG #4 hugely fails to convert to being an average opener in the upcoming BG Series 😉
 
CricketFan90s

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
Chanderpaul had some good experience as an ODI Opener and Ponting a No 3 player used to face New Ball regularly if an Opener gets out early. So both in my opinion can be Good Openers.
 
kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
Coronis said:
Hypothetical question - is it easier for an opener to transition to the middle order, or easier for a middle order batsman to transition to an opener?
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I would.say the former.

I would also say it depends on what type of batsman it is as well.

Just a random example, I would prefer for a Kallis to transition up than a Hutton to slide down.
 
kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
A west Indies / Australia compilation.

Greenidge
Simpson
Bradman
Richards
Lara
Sobers
Gilchrist
Marshall
Warne
Garner
McGrath


If we're including SA

Greenidge
Richards
Bradman
Richards
Lara
Sobers
Gilchrist
Marshall
Warne
Steyn
McGrath

SA - 2
WI - 5
Aus - 4
 
Q

Qlder

International Debutant
What's your ATG XI from the last 50 years?

Here's my Aussie side:
1. Hayden
2. Warner
3. Ponting
4. G.Chappell
5. S.Waugh
6. Border
7. Gilchrist
8. Warne
9. Cummins
10. Lillee
11. McGrath

Mark Taylor would have been there and probably captain if he had not had a couple of long dry spells in his career
 
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Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
Gavaskar
Smith*
Lara
Tendulkar
Smith
Kallis
Gilchrist+
Hadlee
Marshall
Warne
McGrath

If Gavaskar and Hadlee are dq’d for debuting pre 74 I’d replace them with Hayden and Steyn respectively
 
Q

Qlder

International Debutant
Coronis said:
If Gavaskar and Hadlee are dq’d for debuting pre 74 I’d replace them with Hayden and Steyn respectively
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Nah, my intent was who were the best players over last 50 years, I dont care when they debuted (I have Chappell and Lillee who both debuted before '74)
 
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capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
Last 50 years India XI:

  1. Sunil Gavaskar
  2. Virendra Sehwag
  3. Rahul Dravid
  4. Sachin Tendulkar
  5. Virat Kohli
  6. M S Dhoni (wk&c)
  7. Ravindra Jadeja
  8. Kapil Dev
  9. Ravichandran Ashwin
  10. Anil Kumble
  11. Jasprit Bumrah
Yep, exactly the India AT XI


Last 50 years England XI:

  1. Geoff Boycott
  2. Alastair Cook
  3. David Gower
  4. Joe Root
  5. Kevin Pietersen
  6. Ben Stokes (c)
  7. Ian Botham
  8. Alan Knott (wk)
  9. Graeme Swann
  10. Bob Willis
  11. James Anderson

You could make a very valid England AT XI without anyone of them (Root and Jimmy just makes mine, could very easily replace them with Compton/Barrington/May and Statham/Larwood/Bedser)
 
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Q

Qlder

International Debutant
capt_Luffy said:
Last 50 years India XI:
  1. Sunil Gavaskar
  2. Virendra Sehwag
  3. Rahul Dravid
  4. Sachin Tendulkar
  5. Virat Kohli
  6. M S Dhoni (wk&c)
  7. Ravindra Jadeja
  8. Kapil Dev
  9. Ravichandran Ashwin
  10. Anil Kumble
  11. Jasprit Bumrah
Yep, exactly the India AT XI
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So you playing just in India then with 3 spinners and only 1 fast and 1 medium-fast pacer 😉
 
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