Coronis
Cricketer Of The Year
Boycott over Gooch easily for me.
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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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capt_Luffy
International Regular
Forgot about him. Easily for me too.
Good luck playing at the Gabba or Perth with only 2 quicks. You have no batsman that can bowl some medium pace either
At least my Aussie side had Lillee, McGrath & Cummins to bowl pace, Warne and Border to bowl spin and Chappell and Waugh to bowl some medium pace
capt_Luffy
International Regular
Ashwin and Kumble both have performed in Gabba in certain conditions... Overall, this India team isn't beating the Australian one in Australia; but they're also not losing against Australia at home.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Woke up and can't sleep so picked this.
NZ XI May 74 - present day
(Turner not considered as he was mostly unavailable in the time frame and did poorly when he played)
Mark Richardson
John Wright
Kane Williamson
Martin Crowe
Ross Taylor
Daryl Mitchell
BJ Watling
Richard Hadlee
Kyle Jamieson
Neil Wagner
Shane Bond
2nd XI
Stephen Fleming (makeshift opener - if Conway averages 45+ for the next 2 years he'll take the spot and Fleming will move to 4)
Tom Latham
Andrew Jones
John F Reid
Jesse Ryder
Brendon McCullum wk
Jacob Oram
Chris Cairns
Daniel Vettori
Tim Southee
Trent Boult
Was tempted to pick McCullum as an opener for the 2nd team, make one of Smith, Parore, or Blundell keeper and move Oram, Cairns, and Vettori up one.
NZ XI May 74 - present day
(Turner not considered as he was mostly unavailable in the time frame and did poorly when he played)
Mark Richardson
John Wright
Kane Williamson
Martin Crowe
Ross Taylor
Daryl Mitchell
BJ Watling
Richard Hadlee
Kyle Jamieson
Neil Wagner
Shane Bond
2nd XI
Stephen Fleming (makeshift opener - if Conway averages 45+ for the next 2 years he'll take the spot and Fleming will move to 4)
Tom Latham
Andrew Jones
John F Reid
Jesse Ryder
Brendon McCullum wk
Jacob Oram
Chris Cairns
Daniel Vettori
Tim Southee
Trent Boult
Was tempted to pick McCullum as an opener for the 2nd team, make one of Smith, Parore, or Blundell keeper and move Oram, Cairns, and Vettori up one.
Surely Bumrah, Shami and Dev + Ashwin & Jadeja is a better choice on pacey wickets
capt_Luffy
International Regular
Yeah, they are. But not in India. If I am not winning against Australia in pacey wickets, I should atleast do so in turners.
How is Chris Cairns not one of the 5 best players so just need to fit him in?
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Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
No point playing 5 seamers. Cairns is only picked if we pick Vettori and 4 seamers.
Anyway, the first 5 picked are Hadlee, Williamson, Crowe, Watling, and Taylor as all were better than Cairns.
Cairns also misses out because Mitchell averages 50 and Jamieson averages 20.
I want to see the @capt_Luffy Indian XI with 3 spinners play the @Fuller Pilch NZ XI with no spinners 
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
They will be worth 12000 once he adds them impact subs.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Ahem:I want to see the @capt_Luffy Indian XI with 3 spinners play the @Fuller Pilch NZ XI with no spinners
Ross Taylor, Right Arm Off Break, bowling average 16
Mark Richardson, Slow Left Arm, bowling average 21
Kane Williamson, another offie/chucker, best bowling innings 4/44
If you want a spinner, drop Mitchell for Vettori and make the 6-11 read
Watling (wk)
Vettori
Hadlee
Jamieson
Wagner
Bond
capt_Luffy
International Regular
Need to drop Bond or Jamieson for Cairns then.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Why? If you don't like Vettori at 7, put Vettori at 8 and Hadlee at 7. Hadlee averaged 32 at 7 in a tough batting era. Jamieson is a fine 9.
capt_Luffy
International Regular
The batting is Not ATG standard if Hadlee bats at 7 and Watling at 6. You also imo don't need 5 proper frontline bowlers.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
That's why I picked 4 in the original team. Anyway, Vettori would be there as an allrounder, not a frontliner.
Watling at 6 is as good or better than Stokes and Dhoni at 6.
Hadlee at 7 is weaker than Botham and Jadeja at 7 even though he averaged 32 at 7.
Vettori at 8 is better than Knott and equal to Kapil.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Anyway, there is a good chance that one of both of Ravindra and Phillips would make this side in 5-6 years.
Ravindra as an opener as a better version of Jayasuriya, and Phillips as a better version of D'Oliveira at 6, with Watling at 7 then 4 quicks would be a quality side
Ravindra as an opener as a better version of Jayasuriya, and Phillips as a better version of D'Oliveira at 6, with Watling at 7 then 4 quicks would be a quality side
CricketFan90s
First Class Debutant
Bond played only 18 tests and you are including him in a Team. Should I laugh or cry seeing you ?
TheJediBrah
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Don't agree with either of those statements
TheJediBrah
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But Barry Richards is fine