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Barry Richards for sure a bit overrated but not the most.100%
I mean lots of people put him in their top 5 test openers, I’d call that massively overrated.Barry Richards for sure a bit overrated but not the most.
when people say injuries robbed him of a great career......Ryan harris. Basically an Australian zaheer khan who didn't get picked when he was crap.
Never heard anyone say that tbh. Robbed him of a 20-30 Tests maybewhen people say injuries robbed him of a great career......
I think that when people rate Larwood highly, they usually do so on the strength of his first class career, which at the time wasn't seen as a step below tests like it is now.Harold Larwood.
And before people think I don't respect cricket from that era, I think Donald Bradman was the GOAT of both cricket and the most anomolously GOATed athlete in any sport ever invented.
There's such a mythologizing around that Bodyline tour, that I think we tend to lose some of the bigger picture. One great series does not an all-time great bowler make, nor does one "decent" series, a GOATed batsman besmirch. And to say otherwise in an attempt to either reduce Bradman, or elevate Larwood, simply doesn't logically follow.
The truth of Larwood, is that he was horribly inconsistent in his Test career outside of that series. Quick, scary, and a particularly well suited instrument to wield a novel strategy, yes. A "great" bowler in any sense of the term that we judge by these days, no.
Can't agree. I'd put him in an ATG England XI.Harold Larwood.
And before people think I don't respect cricket from that era, I think Donald Bradman was the GOAT of both cricket and the most anomolously GOATed athlete in any sport ever invented.
There's such a mythologizing around that Bodyline tour, that I think we tend to lose some of the bigger picture. One great series does not an all-time great bowler make, nor does one "decent" series, a GOATed batsman besmirch. And to say otherwise in an attempt to either reduce Bradman, or elevate Larwood, simply doesn't logically follow.
The truth of Larwood, is that he was horribly inconsistent in his Test career outside of that series. Quick, scary, and a particularly well suited instrument to wield a novel strategy, yes. A "great" bowler in any sense of the term that we judge by these days, no.
While 17.51 is a fair sight better than the 28.35 that is his Test career, it still begs the question, why could he never translate that performance to Tests? His pre-bodyline tests were during his prime, and 16 tests is far from being able to say "he didn't get a run".I think that when people rate Larwood highly, they usually do so on the strength of his first class career, which at the time wasn't seen as a step below tests like it is now.
Stocks in Burgey Ltd plummetingShane Warne
Fantastic in Australia and England but can you really be the best spinner of all time with such an appalling record in India - the home of spin - 34 wkts at 43 a piece.
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You can if your chief protagonist for the title averages 70 in another country, making 43 seem like the output of SF BarnesShane Warne
Fantastic in Australia and England but can you really be the best spinner of all time with such an appalling record in India - the home of spin - 34 wkts at 43 a piece.
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Jadeja doesn’t average 70 thoughYou can if your chief protagonist for the title averages 70 in another country, making 43 seem like the output of SF Barnes
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Yeah but people play both sides of the street with earlier eras. Not enough tests - can't rate them; unless its negative. Larwood basically won 2 series against Australia down under. Considering the small number of tests played then its not a bad effort.Harold Larwood.
And before people think I don't respect cricket from that era, I think Donald Bradman was the GOAT of both cricket and the most anomolously GOATed athlete in any sport ever invented.
There's such a mythologizing around that Bodyline tour, that I think we tend to lose some of the bigger picture. One great series does not an all-time great bowler make, nor does one "decent" series, a GOATed batsman besmirch. And to say otherwise in an attempt to either reduce Bradman, or elevate Larwood, simply doesn't logically follow.
The truth of Larwood, is that he was horribly inconsistent in his Test career outside of that series. Quick, scary, and a particularly well suited instrument to wield a novel strategy, yes. A "great" bowler in any sense of the term that we judge by these days, no.
Sorry, what two series is he meant to have won?Yeah but people play both sides of the street with earlier eras. Not enough tests - can't rate them; unless its negative. Larwood basically won 2 series against Australia down under. Considering the small number of tests played then its not a bad effort.
And Rhino's a legend.
fmd smhSorry, what two series is he meant to have won?
I thought as much, 1 rule for Jimmy another for WarneYou can if your chief protagonist for the title averages 70 in another country, making 43 seem like the output of SF Barnes
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