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Kapil Dev vs Ryan Harris

Who was the better bowler?(Tests)

  • Kapil Dev

    Votes: 32 71.1%

  • Ryan Harris

    Votes: 13 28.9%
  • Total voters
    45
sunilz

sunilz

International Regular
Fuller Pilch said:
So if bowlers only play 27 tests and never play in India, does that make them inferior to Kapil??
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Yes

That is why Pant is inferior to Gilchrist as a test bat. Otherwise he has twice the average of Gilchrist in Border Gavaskar trophy.

He also has more century than Gilchrist in England.
Imagine Pant retiring today and some Indian poster start rating him more than Gilchrist

And Pant has lower average than Gilchrist because Indian batting has become garbage overseas in last 3 years. So he hardly gets to do downhill skiing

And here is a bonus stats for you: Pant has same number of centuries in SA, ENG and AUS as Williamson
 
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subshakerz

International Coach
sunilz said:
Yes

That is why Pant is inferior to Gilchrist as a test bat. Otherwise he has twice the average of Gilchrist in Border Gavaskar trophy.

He also has more century than Gilchrist in England.
Imagine Pant retiring today and some Indian poster start rating him more than Gilchrist

And Pant has lower average than Gilchrist because Indian batting has become garbage overseas in last 3 years. So he hardly gets to do downhill skiing

And here is a bonus stats for you: Pant has same number of centuries in SA, ENG and AUS as Williamson
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Kapil ain't Gilchrist level as a bowler, genius
 
sunilz

sunilz

International Regular
List of Test batsman better than Gilchrist:
Bradman, Smith, Chappel, Ponting, Steve Waugh , Miachel Clarke, Border, Gavaskar, Tendulkar, Dravid, Kohli, Sehwag, Laxman, Hobbs, Hutton, Joe root, Pieterson, Hammond , Sutcfile, Kallis, Graeme Smith , Deviliers , Lara, Richards, Sobers, Chanderpaul, Rohan Kanhai, Inzamam , Miandad , Andy flower , Sangakkara and many more
 
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subshakerz

International Coach
sunilz said:
Gilchrist isn't even top 30 Test bat genius. How deluded you are ?
Kapil standing as a pure bowler is same as Gilchrist standing as a pure Test bat.
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I never said Gilchrist was. But your comparison is bogus since Gilchrist averages more than Pant anyways so it's not even clear if Pant right now has a better record, whereas the only reason we are making this comparison is Harris has a much better overall record than Kapil albeit in a shorter period.

So it's more like saying Pant is a better bat than Dhoni despite playing one third of his games. Most of us would do so comfortably.
 
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Xix2565

International Regular
I'm not sure how asserting dominance as the king of dumb analogies is meant to support the idea of Harris being a better bowler.
 
sunilz

sunilz

International Regular
subshakerz said:
I never said Gilchrist was. But your comparison is bogus since Gilchrist averages more than Pant anyways, whereas the only reason we are making this comparison is Harris has a much better overall record than Kapil albeit in a shorter period.

So it's more like saying Pant is a better bat than Dhoni despite playing one third of his games. Most of us would do so comfortably.
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Gilchrist averages more because Pant has played only 8 test in IND and 21 test in SENA countries. Whereas Gilchrist played around 60% of his game in Australia ?

Here is a bonus stats for you : Pant has more century than Inzamam in SA, AUS and ENG .
 
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subshakerz

International Coach
sunilz said:
Gilchrist averages more because Pant has played only 8 test in IND and 21 test in SENA countries. Whereas Gilchrist played around 60% of his game in Australia ?

Here is a bonus stats for you : Pant has more century than Inzamam in SA, AUS and ENG .
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You didn't address the argument.
 
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Xix2565

International Regular
Also please stop saying Harris played at a world-class level for 5 years, the man only played 27 Tests in 5 years. Kapil played 3 more Tests per year than Harris ever managed, so don't use the number of years played here as some sort of argument for Harris when he barely managed to play 5 Tests a year.
 
sunilz

sunilz

International Regular
subshakerz said:
You didn't address the argument.
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What argument? Harris has a better record because he missed all the tough Aus Tests.
Between 2010 to 2014, Aus played 8 tests in IND/UAE and Aus lost all those 8 tests and Harris missed all those tests . So Harris basically avoided all those series in which his average could get worse.

In the Ashes and SA series any body who watched the series would say Johnson whose career average is 29 was better bowler than Harris.
 
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