best team in world cricket right now

[Heboric]

Yeah but they also keep losing home series to England and Oz. Also wasn't that flash in Bangladesh earlier.

yeah but England were **** in UAE a couple of times

 

[smash84]

yeah but England were **** in UAE a couple of times

they lost, yes, they were by no means ****

 

[Heboric]

they lost, yes, they were by no means ****

Played 6, lost 5, drew 1

There is no Almost Won stat in sport.

Barring this dreadful year, my rugby team the Spingboks almost beat the All Blacks on numerous occassions.

 

[akilana]

yeah but England were **** in UAE a couple of times

And they also kept losing to SA and SL at home.

 

[smash84]

Played 6, lost 5, drew 1

There is no Almost Won stat in sport.

Barring this dreadful year, my rugby team the Spingboks almost beat the All Blacks on numerous occassions.

They played very well given the conditions. I am sure you never watched them play so shut up will ya

 

[Heboric]

They played very well given the conditions. I am sure you never watched them play so shut up will ya

Actually I did see them play and they werent great. Bowling out a side for 99 in the first innings and still losing is not what i call wonderful performance. Nor getting bowled out for 72 either

 

[smash84]

Actually I did see them play and they werent great. Bowling out a side for 99 in the first innings and still losing is not what i call wonderful performance. Nor getting bowled out for 72 either

It was a pretty good pitch for spinners and Ajmal was at his chucking best. No team in the world could have stood up to him in those tests.

 

[TheJediBrah]

This is even harder to pick now than it was when the thread was made

India will be no. 1 easily for a little bit playing so much at home

 

[Zinzan]

Whilst it's very close to call...I don't see how anyone could go outside either India or South Africa as of today if they were forced to name one.

 

[Zinzan]

India will be no. 1 easily for a little bit playing so much at home

Not saying this Indian would have necessarily won against NZ in NZ, but I very much doubt they would have been as hopeless as Pakistan were at times.

 

[Burgey]

Yeah I think it's fair to say Pakistan has a few issues. Not that they lost, but the manner of it was pretty demoralising. Out of India and SA right now for mine. Even though India doesn't have a good away record, a few of their batsmen are more capable away than Jose in some other sides (Australia for example). They don't look utterly clueless all the time like our blokes do when we tour on the SC.

 

[smash84]

Indian batting is quality generally, its the bowling that's problematic outside.

 

[Zinzan]

Indian batting is quality generally, its the bowling that's problematic outside.

Honestly think Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Mohammed Shami, Yadav & Ishant Sharma would have bowled better in NZ conditions than Imran Khan, Mohammad Amir, Sohail Khan & Wahab Riaz did.

On top of that, I agree India's batting would have been far far stronger. I mean let's be honest Younis Khan was nothing more than a walking wicket at 4.

I wouldn't have even sweated if we dropped Younis a couple of times, since it was so obvious he'd fall very soon afterwards anyway.

I'm almost certain this current Indian side would have been a much stiffer Test for NZ in NZ conditions.

 

[Burgey]

Indian batting is quality generally, its the bowling that's problematic outside.

Fair point.

 

[smash84]

Honestly think Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Mohammed Shami, Yadav & Ishant Sharma would have bowled better in NZ conditions than Imran Khan, Mohammad Amir, Sohail Khan & Wahab Riaz did.

On top of that, I agree India's batting would have been far far stronger. I mean let's be honest Younis Khan was nothing more than a walking wicket at 4.

I wouldn't have even sweated that much if we dropped Younis a couple if times, since it was so obvious he'd fall very soon afterwards anyway.

I'm almost certain India would have been a much stiffer Test for NZ in NZ conditions.

lol, dude, why do you keep bringing in India for comparison with Pakistan? I don't care. I think India are right now better than Pakistan. It doesn't matter to me if SL or Zim could field a better team than Pakistan did in NZ. For me right now it's between SA and India for the best team in the world and I think SA shades it for being a better all condition team.

 

[Zinzan]

I'm wouldn't want to discredit Pakistan for reaching no.1 in the rankings momentarily, but the weird thing is I'm looking at this side that just toured, & I'm trying to think of a weaker Pakistan side to come to NZ shores since I first started watched as a nipper in the mid-80s.

 

[Zinzan]

lol, dude, why do you keep bringing in India for comparison with Pakistan? I don't care. I think India are right now better than Pakistan. It doesn't matter to me if SL or Zim could field a better team than Pakistan did in NZ. For me right now it's between SA and India for the best team in the world and I think SA shades it for being a better all condition team.

Lol, what a weirdly defensive reaction. You pointed out India's bowling being problematic outside the SC, and I thought it was relevant to point out their pace bowling attack would have likely performed better in NZ than Pakistan did.

Relevant because Pakistan are the side that have been touted as a team that play well away from home in recent times & were just number 1 a few weeks ago.

 

[smash84]

Lol, what a weirdly defensive reaction. You pointed out India's bowling being problematic outside the SC, and I thought it was relevant to point out their pace bowling attack would have likely performed better in NZ than Pakistan did.

Relevant because Pakistan are the side that have been touted as a team that play well away from home in recent times & were just number 1 a few weeks ago.

It's still irrelevant though because I never mentioned Pakistan. I said south Africa are the best side right now which you seem incapable of addressing.

And whoever said Pakistan were ahead by a country mile?

It was pretty clear that all the top teams were quite close except maybe NZ and Pakistan losing to NZ is a big blow and hence they are rightly no longer in contention for the top team right now. It's between India and south Africa with south Africa the top team for mine.

What is so hard to understand?

 

[smash84]

And I will again add for your benefit that I think India are a better side than Pakistan. Does that help you understand that I don't think that Pakistan are number one?

 

[Zinzan]

It's still irrelevant though because I never mentioned Pakistan. I said south Africa are the best side right now which you seem incapable of addressing.

And whoever said Pakistan were ahead by a country mile?

It was pretty clear that all the top teams were quite close except maybe NZ and Pakistan losing to NZ is a big blow and hence they are rightly no longer in contention for the top team right now. It's between India and south Africa with south Africa the top team for mine.

What is so hard to understand?

Lol, Stop flattering yourself man and making it all about you. I know you didn't mention Pakistan in that reply & never said nor implied you did. I explained why I felt it relevant to compare them to Pakistan. They've been a team touted as one of the better away sides in recent times, you only need look at the poll result in this thread to know that & it's only a month or so old.

Whether it was you or any other poster than mentioned India's bowling problems outside the SC I would have replied with that same point about them likely being better than Pakistan were in NZ.

Stop being so defensive & paranoid in thinking that reply was to have a crack at you.