AB not close, Amla is as good but different era. If you are just going purely on current batsmen he is for sure up there with them as are a few others.
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Why do England struggle to produce undisputedly great players?
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honestbharani
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Lol.. I obviously dont subscribe to this theory and honestly I will rather take a Sehwag than a player who might average 40 everywhere but wont really win you a game on his own. I just think having watched all 3 a lot over some time (Root less so than the other two though), I just think KW is a level ahead as of now.
Furball
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Of course, making 134 when the opposition has been bowled out for 60 is the definition of easy.
The Battlers Prince
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Of course, the other team being crap doesn't mean he's an undisputedly great player.
Burgey
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People keep saying this but sides keep turning up here and consistently lose 20 wickets nearly every test match. Odd.weak trolling effort.
As if making runs in ****ing Australia is the mark of a good batsmen. Flattest pitches known to man.
Burgey
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You're plainly talking about the Imposter AB here, and not the One True AB.
smash84
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you keep bringing up this point but other teams also lose because the Aus attack can take 20 wickets on those (as well as other wickets). Their attack is half decent when the main bowlers are fit. Besides its not like visiting batsmen haven't cashed in on flat wickets. They have gotten runs, just not as many the Aussies.
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what?
Daemon
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Even Bravo and both Brathwaites averaged 50 there tho
TheJediBrah
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in 2 tests
Root, Cook, Bell all averaged 25 in 5 tests
Point is quoting very specific statistics doesn't mean anything
Zinzan
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This is a weird argument mate.
morgieb
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If making runs in Australia is so easy, why does Root average 25 over here?
As if making runs in ****ing Australia is the mark of a good batsmen. Flattest pitches known to man.
Black_Warrior
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Yeah especially when you play against great sides like this
1st Test: Australia v West Indies at Hobart, Dec 10-12, 2015 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
Against India the year earlier you struggled to take 20 wickets and failed to win 2 games as a result
Black_Warrior
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And that's still below tier 1.
Btw I'm finding this evolution to Big 3 from Big 4 quite amusing
Given the form that Kohli was in at the beginning of this year, he has only himself to blame for not converting that in a half a dozen test tons by now. This is a really bad argument and it really annoys me when people them. This is what happens when people who don't actually watch the game then go on to cricinfo and glance over the scorecard. Here is some homework
Check what Amla did on his first series against
Sanga on his first series against England and Australia and South Africa
Dravid on his first series in Australia
This is test cricket. It's tough and many great players have become great after failure, learning and developing as doing better on their second and third series.
Root failed on his first series in Australia and KW failed on his first series in South Africa and England. This says absolutely nothing because they will have long careers ahead of them and it's just a matter of time before they start piling up those numbers.
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I recall one of those games from that series. Australia declared twice, India for within about 80 then declared(I it a triumph).
Adders
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Yeah people talking about Roots average in Aus is just ridiculous.....he's played 4 tests there in the early part of his career FFS.
You can rank the Fab 4 anyway you want but the fact is he is included in that group and ****ing deserves to be too.........anyone saying he is a rung below is just talking bollocks.
You can rank the Fab 4 anyway you want but the fact is he is included in that group and ****ing deserves to be too.........anyone saying he is a rung below is just talking bollocks.
Black_Warrior
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Maybe but you still failed to take 20 wickets in 2 out of 4 games mate
And the other reason people call Australian pitches roads is mainly because of the disparity in the performance of your batsmen on Australian pitches and outside...kinda like Bradman and Chris Martin
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Was mostly a troll response to Jmay's point tbh. 2013/14 you had peak Johnson and the wickets were better for bowling than what they have been over the last two years AFAIC.