*Official* England in India

[Turbinator]

We're back up in the rankings, tied with South Africa at 3rd place.

If we beat West Indies 5-0, we'll only gain 1 point.

 

[Furball]

Yeah I agree. Jadeja's batting could be worth a lot to the team but in his current role he's only going to be of any use in rescue operations. That said, I think he played some pretty rapid innings in the last IPL, so it might be something he's been working on since his last run in the team that we're yet to see.

There's also the matter of what to do when Yuvraj, Sehwag and Tendulkar are all available again. What's India's best ODI team now? If you want Dhoni at 6 and Jadeja at 7 for balance reasons then you have six batsmen vying for five spots - and they're no mugs (Sehwag, Tendulkar, Gambhir, Kohli, Yuvraj and Raina). Might be time for Tendulkar to hang up the ODI boots.

Since hitting his double ton on 24th Feb 2010, outside of the World Cup Tendulkar has played just 2 out of a possible 42 ODIs.

I really don't see the point in Tendulkar playing another ODI considering how little he's played in the format in the last 2 years.

 

[Daemon]

Vinay and Aaron are probably ahead of Munaf in the pecking order now. Don't think Yadav should play ODIs though.

 

[Daemon]

Since hitting his double ton on 24th Feb 2010, outside of the World Cup Tendulkar has played just 2 out of a possible 42 ODIs.

I really don't see the point in Tendulkar playing another ODI considering how little he's played in the format in the last 2 years.

Yeah, I think he should just play till he gets that 100th hundred (in either Tests or ODIs, then retire from the LO.

 

[Outswinger@Pace]

Don't see Sehwag being left out at full strength.

It's more about the team composition, mate. Sehwag isn't a great limited overs player, in my book. I don't see a better ODI opener in the nation than Tendulkar and Gambhir. And in the middle order, you have guys who've done very well in a position.

The core of Kohli-Yuvraj-Raina-Dhoni is possibly the best ODI middle order in the world right now (esp. on home turf) and fiddling with that isn't a great idea. The only possible injection in there would be an accumulator type batsman who can bowl 6 or 7 very effective overs. Ravindra Jadeja is that man!


EDIT: This is very much dependant on Sachin's long-term plans. I have a feeling that he's looking to sign off from ODIs very soon and in that case, it's either Rahane or Sehwag.

 

[Contra]

Yeah I agree. Jadeja's batting could be worth a lot to the team but in his current role he's only going to be of any use in rescue operations. That said, I think he played some pretty rapid innings in the last IPL, so it might be something he's been working on since his last run in the team that we're yet to see.

There's also the matter of what to do when Yuvraj, Sehwag and Tendulkar are all available again. What's India's best ODI team now? If you want Dhoni at 6 and Jadeja at 7 for balance reasons then you have six batsmen vying for five spots - and they're no mugs (Sehwag, Tendulkar, Gambhir, Kohli, Yuvraj and Raina). Might be time for Tendulkar to hang up the ODI boots.

Well at full strength it gets tricky, Id say at full strength it's probably: Sachin / Sehwag / GG / Kholi / Yuvi / Dhoni / Raina / Ashwin or Bhajji + 3 seamers

So yeah Jadeja does miss out if we field our best XI. But the thing is that we won't field our best 11 players for most of the ODI series, you'll almost find either of Sachin or Sehwag, even GG missing every now and then and that opens the slot for Jadeja. Yuvi + Kholi + Raina + Sehwag fill in those 10 overs of part time spin. From a personal perspective, I wanna see Tendulkar keep playing, but that's just me being selfish lol.

 

[ljinko888]

Not going to deny that during the series I wanted Bell in the team. Seeing him play today reminds me why he was dropped in the first place. Great test player, excellent technique but probably doesn't score quickly enough with pace of the ball. Bopara .

I'd probably go for this team in our next ODI series. Not perfect but as someone mentioned before, all in preparation for the World Cup.

Cook
Kieswetter
Trott
Pietersen
Buttler
Bairstow (wk)
Patel/Stokes
Broad
Bresnan
Swann
Finn

EDIT: Forgot all about Morgan! He'd be in for Patel/Stokes but at #5. Never really been convinced with Patel. On paper he is a good player but sometimes his role in the team is opposite to what he actually is

 

[Outswinger@Pace]

Vinay and Aaron are probably ahead of Munaf in the pecking order now. Don't think Yadav should play ODIs though.

Agreed! Yadav should be groomed for test cricket. He's the most promising young quick (actually quick and not a seamer ) bowler in the nation - a fair few leagues ahead of Varun Aaron in the longer format, IMHO.

Any news on Nehra? He still can be a serviceable ODI option, right? Experience can come handy when the screws are turned on in a LOI fixture.

 

[honestbharani]

Loving Turbs' signature.

Imitation is the highest form of flattery, moose ****er.

yeah coz when you did it, it was so original..



Forgot the 2007 Ashes?

 

[Furball]

yeah coz when you did it, it was so original..



Forgot the 2007 Ashes?

Join date: July 2008.

I'll let you work it out.

 

[Prince EWS]

Not going to deny that during the series I wanted Bell in the team. Seeing him play today reminds me why he was dropped in the first place. Great test player, excellent technique but probably doesn't score quickly enough with pace of the ball. Bopara .

I'd probably go for this team in our next ODI series. Not perfect but as someone mentioned before, all in preparation for the World Cup.

Cook
Kieswetter
Trott
Pietersen
Buttler
Bairstow (wk)
Patel/Stokes
Broad
Bresnan
Swann
Finn

EDIT: Forgot all about Morgan! He'd be in for Patel/Stokes but at #5. Never really been convinced with Patel. On paper he is a good player but sometimes his role in the team is opposite to what he actually is

I reckon Davies needs to playing whether or not Kieswetter keeps his place or not, tbh - definitely one of the best limited overs bats in the country by my reckoning. Buttler too probably although finishing the innings off, which is his forte, wasn't really the problem in this series; it was setting it up for the finishers in the first 35 overs (and the bowling).

I'd take Jimmeh ahead of Bresnan too; being a pretty dire ODI bowler is what got Bresnan so under-rated as a Test prospect in the first place.

The balance of that team with Morgan in for Patel seems way off too - you've got Pietersen and Trott sharing ten overs. Patel's gotta play.

 

[Outswinger@Pace]

I'd probably go for this team in our next ODI series. Not perfect but as someone mentioned before, all in preparation for the World Cup.

Cook
Kieswetter
Trott
Pietersen
Buttler
Bairstow (wk)
Patel/Stokes
Broad
Bresnan
Swann
Finn

EDIT: Forgot all about Morgan! He'd be in for Patel/Stokes but at #5. Never really been convinced with Patel. On paper he is a good player but sometimes his role in the team is opposite to what he actually is

No Dernbach there?

I'd chuck Kiltwetter out, get KP to open and throw in Patel/Stokes in addition to Morgan in the middle order. Patel's selection would be more based on where the team plays.

And btw, how good an ODI bowler is Chris Tremlett? Tremlett in place of Bresnan, possibly?

 

[nsniks]

Agreed! Yadav should be groomed for test cricket. He's the most promising young quick (actually quick and not a seamer ) bowler in the nation - a fair few leagues ahead of Varun Aaron in the longer format, IMHO.

Any news on Nehra? He still can be a serviceable ODI option, right? Experience can come handy when the screws are turned on in a LOI fixture.

Right now playing in domestic T20 competition. Sehwag and Ishant Sharma also taking part in that competition.

 

[Prince EWS]

No Dernbach there?

I'd chuck Kiltwetter out, get KP to open and throw in Patel/Stokes in addition to Morgan in the middle order. Patel's selection would be more based on where the team plays.

And btw, how good an ODI bowler is Chris Tremlett? Tremlett in place of Bresnan, possibly?

Tremlett is pretty dire in one day cricket. Like Bresnan, poor ODI performances resulted in the general public under-rating his Test prospects for a while.

 

[ganeshran]

Nehra has played his last match for India I reckon, unless the newer batch does really poorly.

 

[Furball]

Cook
Davies
Trott
KP
Morgan
Patel
Buttler
Swann
Broad
Finn
Anderson
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Borthwick
Bairstow
Bresnan
Stokes (if fit)

 

[ljinko888]

I reckon Davies needs to playing whether or not Kieswetter keeps his place or not, tbh - definitely one of the best limited overs bats in the country by my reckoning. Buttler too probably although finishing the innings off, which is his forte, wasn't really the problem in this series; it was setting it up for the finishers in the first 35 overs (and the bowling).

I'd take Jimmeh ahead of Bresnan too; being a pretty dire ODI bowler is what got Bresnan so under-rated as a Test prospect in the first place.

A bit of a mystery why Davies was dropped in the first place. Would take him over Kieswetter any day. Think the selectors have disgarded him though. With Anderson I think what works against him is the length he bowls. He'll be a handful early on but as the innings goes on I can see him giving a lot of runs away.

 

[honestbharani]

Join date: July 2008.

I'll let you work it out.

some of the sigs were on till the 2009 Ashes.. I ll let you figure out the logic.

 

[intcricket]

England, Lol. I don't even need to say anything post that.

 

[Prince EWS]

Cook
Davies
Trott
KP
Morgan
Patel
Buttler
Swann
Broad
Finn
Anderson

AWTA entirely. Don't really agree with your reserves though.