*Official* - Pakistan in New Zealand 2010/2011

[M0rphin3]

Haha posted in the wrong thread

 

[lockton2skipper]

and the ashes was tame stuff compared to the sa/ind series.

well if you aren't english or australian i supose you would say that. i also saw quite a bit of that series and would not say south africa or india's

attack are any better or as good as england. stregnth in depth the key. get past a slower steyn and morkel and thats the yarpies spent as for india there not as good as the think steady not spectacular bowling and spinners not great.

 

[Woodster]

Was staggered by the collapse by New Zealand when I saw the outcome today. I left it at 42-1, and depending on how they played Rehman, I expected them to wipe out the run deficit and begin building a lead. My entertainment tonight was watching them construct an innings to give them a decent total for Pakistan to chase down. But 110 all out!! On a pitch that when I was watching was doing next to nothing at all. Did it deteriorate any, was Rehman turning it square or Gul getting plenty of reverse ?

I watched the NZ side compete, fight, and display no less skill in India in the last series to be very competitive against one of the world's finest teams, but they then produce a performance like this when you think they may be turning a corner. Another false dawn, or is this just a particularly bad performance that won't be repeated for a while ?

When Taylor, Ryder and Williamson score just nine runs between them, you know you're going to struggle. McIntosh looked well out of nick, while McCullum made another start.

Will watch the rest of the Test later and try to get my head round what on earth went wrong.

 

[slowfinger]

I want that Tuffey back in, don't know why he got kicked anyway, and ALAM

 

[Howe_zat]

Might NZ consider playing Williamson at #3? He strikes me as a very solid player for someone barely older than me and has a pretty healthy technique.

I don't subscribe to the idea he should play at #6 just because he's new, I think 6 is a specialist's position as much as any.

 

[vcs]

I love Kane but I expected the Pakistani pacers to give him a much harder test than India's bunch did on flat wickets and that might well come true. He looks all class against spin, though.

 

[Smudge]

nowadays?
The Enzeds have always had mud batsmen in their ranks, Donnelly, JF Reid and Crowe aside.
ALWAYS.

Yep, Turner and Sutcliffe were complete rubbish.

As for the game, I've reached the delightful stage of not actually caring about this NZ side. I saw the score when I got home yesterday (70-odd/7 at the time) and just shrugged my shoulders. They don't deserve my support until they play anywhere near their ability.

 

[NZTailender]

By the way NZTailender I notice in your sig and also in honestbharani's sig this message R.I.P. Fardin. What is this for???

As slowfinger said, Fardin was a member who passed away. He was very young, played cricket in America and had wonderful energy. He is missed.

 

[Zinzan]

As for the game, I've reached the delightful stage of not actually caring about this NZ side. I saw the score when I got home yesterday (70-odd/7 at the time) and just shrugged my shoulders. They don't deserve my support until they play anywhere near their ability.

You & me both Volts & I've been like that for a while now. I have absoutely no expectations whatsoever & if they do play with an ounce of guts & determination from time to time i.e first 2 test vs India, that's a bonus.

 

[centurymaker]

Yep, Turner and Sutcliffe were complete rubbish.

As for the game, I've reached the delightful stage of not actually caring about this NZ side. I saw the score when I got home yesterday (70-odd/7 at the time) and just shrugged my shoulders. They don't deserve my support until they play anywhere near their ability.

Same here mate. I've given up on supporting the blackcaps.

 

[Hurricane]

Blacks Caps humiliated by a depleted Pakistan | Stuff.co.nz

Good summary article

 

[Halfpast_Yellow]

You & me both Volts & I've been like that for a while now. I have absoutely no expectations whatsoever & if they do play with an ounce of guts & determination from time to time i.e first 2 test vs India, that's a bonus.

I am the same. Ridiculous batting collapses and zero application are expected, and I don't care anymore.

 

[Smudge]

I have no problems supporting a team if they look like they're trying and are learning from their mistakes, but to see a batsman like Taylor constantly reverting to the slog-sweep (I don't know if he pulled it out often in this game, as I was away and busy most of the weekend) because he's out of options and has no plan B is just one source of frustration for me.

And hell, I even support Otago rugby, so it's not like I'm a gold-digging whore when it comes to my sporting support.

 

[Bahnz]

Was staggered by the collapse by New Zealand when I saw the outcome today. I left it at 42-1, and depending on how they played Rehman, I expected them to wipe out the run deficit and begin building a lead. My entertainment tonight was watching them construct an innings to give them a decent total for Pakistan to chase down. But 110 all out!! On a pitch that when I was watching was doing next to nothing at all. Did it deteriorate any, was Rehman turning it square or Gul getting plenty of reverse ?

I watched the NZ side compete, fight, and display no less skill in India in the last series to be very competitive against one of the world's finest teams, but they then produce a performance like this when you think they may be turning a corner. Another false dawn, or is this just a particularly bad performance that won't be repeated for a while ?

When Taylor, Ryder and Williamson score just nine runs between them, you know you're going to struggle. McIntosh looked well out of nick, while McCullum made another start.

Will watch the rest of the Test later and try to get my head round what on earth went wrong.

The pitch was still pretty good. Of the first 5 wickets to fall:

McIntosh charged and missed an innocuous delivery from Rehman
McCullum got a bad decision swinging wildly at one going down the leg side
Guptill, much like in the first innings, got tied down by Rehman until he cracked, took a dirty slog and was caught.
Ryder got a beauty from Riaz that swung in late and hit him flush on the toe.
Taylor got shafted by Williamson going for a quick single.

So of the top 5, only one was dismissed by genuinely good bowling. It was awful.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Oh man how did this happen? I saw 367 and left thinking New Zealand would get another 270 odd, Pakistan would be chasing 180 and get bundled out for 140 like this

A pleasant surprise..also because Pakistan usually never win the first test match of a series.. I was expecting 1-1.

Lets see what they have in store in the second test match.. I still dont want to get too excited. Pakistan are due a dramatic batting collapse.

 

[smash84]

Oh man how did this happen? I saw 367 and left thinking New Zealand would get another 270 odd, Pakistan would be chasing 180 and get bundled out for 140 like this

A pleasant surprise..also because Pakistan usually never win the first test match of a series.. I was expecting 1-1.

I would agree
Lets see what they have in store in the second test match.. I still dont want to get too excited. Pakistan are due a dramatic batting collapse.

i agree with you. We haven't seen a Pak batting collapse since the English series. There were mini collapses were SA but nothing serious. One of them must be around the corner

 

[Howe_zat]

i agree with you. We haven't seen a Pak batting collapse since the English series. There were mini collapses were SA but nothing serious. One of them must be around the corner

If there's a quota of batting collapses they probably exhausted it pretty thoroughly in that England series. I think you're in the clear.

 

[smash84]

If there's a quota of batting collapses they probably exhausted it pretty thoroughly in that England series. I think you're in the clear.

lol.....the pakistan batting collapse supply is inexhaustible. This has been an extraordinarily long run without a collapse. It is not the Pakistan batting's fault that they didn't collapse. They did show signs of it even on the morning of the 3rd day tbh when Misbah and Shafiq went quickly it is just that NZ have been dire. Just a little more application from NZ and you will see Voila................

 

[smash84]

Blacks Caps humiliated by a depleted Pakistan | Stuff.co.nz

Good summary article

Very well written article

I particularly agree with this line

"New Zealand test history is littered with collapses of a similar magnitude, but rarely against an opposition team of such dubious quality."

Hit the nail on the head

 

[vcs]

NZ's batting was really dire in this match. Taylor has been in poor form for quite a while now.