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Best Summerslam Match - The Rock v HHH, Ladder @ SS '98 (needs citation)

Dunno if it's just me, but I've always found this match to be slightly overated, good certainly, but it's not amazing imo, or have I just missed something?

 

[Agent TBY]

Was on Smackdown tbh.

Whoops, must've confused it with TLC IV. Which one was the one with seven men in Vegas, with Kane winning?

Dunno if it's just me, but I've always found this match to be slightly overated, good certainly, but it's not amazing imo, or have I just missed something?

It is, tbh. It's more a case of a "look where they are now" kinda match. Summerslam might be one of the "Big 4", but I can't recall any match which surpasses that one, save TLC I.

 

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Whoops, must've confused it with TLC IV. Which one was the one with seven men in Vegas, with Kane winning?



It is, tbh. It's more a case of a "look where they are now" kinda match. Summerslam might be one of the "Big 4", but I can't recall any match which surpasses that one, save TLC I.

Yeah the fourth one was the one in vegas, great match that, as was the one on smackdown really, some great spots in both.

Good point re: summerslam, I can't really think of a great match from it either, remember Test vs Shane being pretty entertaining though...but again, not amazing.

 

[sledger]

Just seen the Edge/Taker hell in a cell, great match, both of these guys are so awesome, if anyone ever ends the Wrestlemania winning streak it should be Edge imo, he's fantastic.

 

[andmark]

Just seen the Edge/Taker hell in a cell, great match, both of these guys are so awesome, if anyone ever ends the Wrestlemania winning streak it should be Edge imo, he's fantastic.

Randy Orton I think.

 

[sledger]

Would have agreed about 3 years ago, Orton is good, but for someone to end the streak they would have to be mega over, and Edge is, Orton is not and will never be on the same level as Edge.

 

[sledger]

Smackdown this week looks like a decent show, another Championship scramble at Unforigen, and whether or not you like the concept this one should prove to be inifinitely more interesting than the RAW one. With Shelton, Jeff, MVP and Kendrick all going up against HHH this should be a great match to watch, and would be even sweeter if HHH does the job.

 

[duffer]

Definitely up there. WCW had some stonkers as far as their little guys went. In no particular order my favs were:

*Eddie v Rey - Halloween Havoc 97
*Eddie v Jericho - Fall Brawl 97
*Rey v Psychosis - Bash at the Beach 96
*Benoit v Sullivan - GAB 96 Falls Count anywhere (if only we knew what the hell was going to happen with those two)
*Eddie v Malenko - Uncensored 97 (I think)
*Malenko v Ultimo Dragon - Starrcade 96
*Jericho v Ultimo Dragon - BATB 97
*Jushin Liger v Brian Pillman - Superbrawl (early 90's sometime)
*Benoit v Malenko - Hog Wild 96
*Juventud Guerrera v Blitzkrieg -Spring Stampede 99

There are quite a few more but I can't remember them off the top of my head, but if you get a chance to see any of those you won't regret it. Quality stuff, makes me long for the days WWE had proper competition.

Here's the list of favourite WCW matches I posted before. Of these Eddie v Rey, Benoit v Sullivan and Dragon v Jericho could all make a list of must see. Especially the two with the lucha libre specialists.

 

[duffer]

Smackdown this week looks like a decent show, another Championship scramble at Unforigen, and whether or not you like the concept this one should prove to be inifinitely more interesting than the RAW one. With Shelton, Jeff, MVP and Kendrick all going up against HHH this should be a great match to watch, and would be even sweeter if HHH does the job.

Still not convinced about the concept but at least the RAW match had names to give it credibility. Of the 5 there only HHH and MVP deserve to be anywhere near a title shot. Having all these random mid carders in there just makes the SD! roster look weak.

And what's with Vickie and Taker now? The logical feud was for him to move onto MVP, but surely Edge has to be back sooner or later and when he does it'd make sense to keep Taker as far away from Vickie as possible?

Wrestling is going hilariously beckwards fast after a great SS. Shame, they could've gone in so many interesting direction after the PPV and instead we go back to the same old same old.

 

[sledger]

Well dunno tbh, it's obvious that HHH will win, but the ME exposure for all these guys will do all of them a world of good, and to make it better they are all guys who are genuinely good in the ring, it's far better than seeing the ME stacked with the likes of Mark Henry and Great Khali, would have preferred to see Kennedy involved at the expense of one of the others, but looks like we won't be seeing him for a long while now.

 

[Freddie_Fittler]

Crack out HHH vs Edge feud and MVP vs 'Taker on the mid card now for SD then switch HHH to a Heel (Which he is much better at and enjoys much more) and do the one we have been waiting for, HHH vs 'Taker. They need to put Orton on SD when he returns. Raw has the starts to hold itself extremely easily till the next draft, they could make Orton returning to SD a big thing. I also have high hopes for the newish Russian chap.

 

[duffer]

Crack out HHH vs Edge feud and MVP vs 'Taker on the mid card now for SD then switch HHH to a Heel (Which he is much better at and enjoys much more) and do the one we have been waiting for, HHH vs 'Taker. They need to put Orton on SD when he returns. Raw has the starts to hold itself extremely easily till the next draft, they could make Orton returning to SD a big thing. I also have high hopes for the newish Russian chap.

I think they're giving Edge a bit of a break. He's carrying s couple of injuries and he's pretty much been THE show for Smackdown for the past year or so. Deserves some recuperation time for mine, hope he gets it. That's probably why Triple H has been given these stop gap feuds with the likes of Khali and now this Title scramble are just keeping the seat warm for the eventual money feud of Edge v Triple H.

Kennedy's nursing a shoulder injury so he's got a few months out, looking at the roster there's a major struggle on to find a credible heel to go after Taker, the only real option for me being Umaga which would be pretty cool in the ring but without Estrada an Umaga feud will be hard to get over on the mic, especially since Taker's current incarnation isn't a huge talker on the mic.

 

[Agent TBY]

Kennedy's nursing a shoulder injury so he's got a few months out, looking at the roster there's a major struggle on to find a credible heel to go after Taker, the only real option for me being Umaga which would be pretty cool in the ring but without Estrada an Umaga feud will be hard to get over on the mic, especially since Taker's current incarnation isn't a huge talker on the mic.

Biker Umaga v Deadman Taker!

 

[masterblaster]

I think they're giving Edge a bit of a break. He's carrying s couple of injuries and he's pretty much been THE show for Smackdown for the past year or so. Deserves some recuperation time for mine, hope he gets it. That's probably why Triple H has been given these stop gap feuds with the likes of Khali and now this Title scramble are just keeping the seat warm for the eventual money feud of Edge v Triple H.

Kennedy's nursing a shoulder injury so he's got a few months out, looking at the roster there's a major struggle on to find a credible heel to go after Taker, the only real option for me being Umaga which would be pretty cool in the ring but without Estrada an Umaga feud will be hard to get over on the mic, especially since Taker's current incarnation isn't a huge talker on the mic.

Umaga is also injured I think. He was injured on a house show as well so it maybe that he's out of the picture as well. I think Kozlov will be the man to feud with The Undertaker.

 

[Barney Rubble]

I find the booking of the SmackDown Scramble at Unforgiven very interesting, but possibly slightly misguided. It's fantastic to see four guys in a title match who have never won the title before, but not necessarily in a title match of this kind. It's a no-win situation for all of them.

It's obvious Triple H is going to be coming out with the belt at the end of the 20 minutes, but either way, if he doesn't lose it at any point during the match, then it hurts all of the other competitors simultaneously; if he does, he'll probably win it back almost immediately, and whoever he won it from will be buried thanks to the fact that their first WWE Championship reign lasted less than 20 minutes.

Whatever happens, Unforgiven will be an interesting one - two intriguing title matches to look forward to, plus HBK-Jericho, and no doubt a few more matchups.

 

[sledger]

Predict MVP to walk out WWE Champion

 

[duffer]

I find the booking of the SmackDown Scramble at Unforgiven very interesting, but possibly slightly misguided. It's fantastic to see four guys in a title match who have never won the title before, but not necessarily in a title match of this kind. It's a no-win situation for all of them.

It's obvious Triple H is going to be coming out with the belt at the end of the 20 minutes, but either way, if he doesn't lose it at any point during the match, then it hurts all of the other competitors simultaneously; if he does, he'll probably win it back almost immediately, and whoever he won it from will be buried thanks to the fact that their first WWE Championship reign lasted less than 20 minutes.

That's the thing. Triple H is the only person in that match who doesn't need a win to retain his credibility and he's the only really credible champion out of that lot as well so he can't lose.

I guess it's something new for him though, the chance to bury 4 guys at the same time. Honestly see this as being another one match PPV and just hope HBK and Jericho can deliver.

 

[masterblaster]

Brian Kendrick in a WWE Title Match = Awesome

 

[Barney Rubble]

BTW, random fact I just discovered. Mike Adamle, RAW General Manager, is getting in shape to get into the ring at some point in the near future, most likely as a gimmicky angle, the sort they always do. Unremarkable, you might say, given that the likes of Michael Cole, Jim Ross, and countless other non-wrestlers have competed in matches in the past.

However, what is remarkable is that Adamle is stepping into the ring for the first time in his life, at the age of......






.....wait for it......








.....58. Yes, that's right. MIKE ADAMLE IS FIFTY-EIGHT YEARS OLD. I seriously thought he was about twenty years younger than that. Wow.

 

[duffer]

Haha, hoping I look as good as that when I'm 58.