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Would England have won the 2005 Ashes without ball tampering?

Would England have won the 2005 Ashes without ball tampering?


  • Total voters
    36

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
Don't moan at us because your whole ****ing nation went through some self-flagellating, performative bull**** about upholding the "spirit of cricket" when you suddenly realised that your cricketers were the dodgy ****s the rest of the world already knew they were.
This is sig worthy.......very well played sir.
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
And a very often overlooked fact is in place here........who was the Eng bowling coach at the time?

Must have been a very smart man that Troy Cooley.......working out that ****ing Murray mints would have so much more of an impact than the 10 packs of Wrigley's spearmint Ponting was chomping in the cordon, wondering why his spit cant get Brett Lee and Shaun Tait to move the ball off the straight.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
I don't think English cricket fans have carried any illusions about our cricket side for a very long time.
One team decided to change their spirit of cricket because they were a bit crap, the other did so because they were caught cheating.
 

Ashes81

State Vice-Captain
Ever since I've watched cricket the Aussies have always took the rules to the edge

From Bob Massie swinging it around corners at Lords through to sandpapergate.

I'm not saying they were alone in this, they obviously weren't but they pushed the line more than most. In 2005 we caught up with them a bit with Murray mints and sub fielders.
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
I tell you I love Tresco I really do.......but that was so **** of him talking about this in his book. If he hadn't no one would know this was even a thing and it would be just like any series anywhere where stuff like this happens ALL the time just it's not spoken about. Only time we know about it is if a player like Tresco spills his guts or dumb ****s like Bancroft and Afridi get caught on camera red handed.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
I tell you I love Tresco I really do.......but that was so **** of him talking about this in his book. If he hadn't no one would know this was even a thing and it would be just like any series anywhere where stuff like this happens ALL the time just it's not spoken about. Only time we know about it is if a player like Tresco spills his guts or dumb ****s like Bancroft and Afridi get caught on camera red handed.
Pretty sure it was already widely known tbf
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Stand corrected if that's the case but my recollection is this all came out after his book?
I think the fact it was Murray Mints wasn’t known, everyone was saying it was Trebor or something before then
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
I think the fact it was Murray Mints wasn’t known, everyone was saying it was Trebor or something before then
Really don't remember that but my memory is shot so ill definitely bow to your knowledge

But Omfg.....imagine if we had we gone the trebor mints instead of the murrays??? Ashes history could look very very different.

Just as well our aussie mate Troy Cooley knew his mints and how to work the ball hey.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Really don't remember that but my memory is shot so ill definitely bow to your knowledge

But Omfg.....imagine if we had we gone the trebor mints instead of the murrays??? Ashes history could look very very different.

Just as well our aussie mate Troy Cooley knew his mints and how to work the ball hey.
If you want to cheat successfully, get an Aussie to mastermind it.

If you want to cheat unsuccessfully, get an Aussie to do it!!
 

Aidan11

International Vice-Captain
The worst thing ever attached to a cricket ball during play was Mke Gatting's nose.
 

Gnske

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Geraint Is My Hero is my Hero and Geraint is His Hero

He never took the Kasprowicz catch btw
 

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