What happens to Bazball if Australia wins the Ashes ?

[Son Of Coco]

IMO 'Bazball' is a state of mind or attitude rather than a way of playing. Win lose or draw in the Ashes it is to be hoped that England retains the positive attitude.

It's been mentioned for years by a number of players who aren't English (I think McGrath was one of them) that England's biggest problem was always that their first thought was to avoid a loss rather than go for a win. Glad they're onboard at last.

It will take a succession of captains who are decidedly un-English for it to continue I think, however that probably depends on how long it is successful for.

 

[Molehill]

Maybe because Hobart in particular was as stereotypical English conditions as they get.

Sometimes I wonder if people are so obsessed with their checklist by analysis they forget to consider the actual games of cricket that happened.

One other factor is the ball. Could be he's good against the Kookaburra and rubbish with the Dukes. He didn't play the Dukes in Hobart.

 

[GIMH]

Maybe because Hobart in particular was as stereotypical English conditions as they get.

Sometimes I wonder if people are so obsessed with their checklist by analysis they forget to consider the actual games of cricket that happened.

Fair, but playing an England team who are 3-0 down at the end of a miserable tour (restrictions, bubbles or whatever it was) is not exactly a lift and drop to playing England at home. Point about conditions is taken but context also key.

 

[Ashes81]

Maybe because Hobart in particular was as stereotypical English conditions as they get.

Sometimes I wonder if people are so obsessed with their checklist by analysis they forget to consider the actual games of cricket that happened.

Mate, the most stereotypical English conditions you can get are in England not Tasmania. And as you know, Head has a poor record over here.

As others have said, the context of that knock, and it was a fine one, is very different to the upcoming Ashes. Also the Dukes ball is a different animal to the Kookaburra.

Put it another way, given Head's really poor away record, not just in England but in all countries in which he's played, why do you think he'll come good in the Ashes?

 

[Molehill]

David Warner averages 58.4 at home and 26 in England. It's not like Head's issues would be anything new....

 

[Ashes81]

David Warner averages 58.4 at home and 26 in England. It's not like Head's issues would be anything new....

But as you know mate he's scored 100s against us in Oz so his record in England doesn't matter ?

 

[Spark]

But as you know mate he's scored 100s against us in Oz so his record in England doesn't matter ?

So either you didn't see a ball of that Test in Hobart or you're being deliberately disingenuous here.

My point is about the pitch conditions, which seemingly everyone grasps save for you. And as for the ball, you can't get more difficult batting conditions than the pink Kookaburra under lights when it's swinging around corners. As England is well aware.

 

[Molehill]

So either you didn't see a ball of that Test in Hobart or you're being deliberately disingenuous here.

My point is about the pitch conditions, which seemingly everyone grasps save for you. And as for the ball, you can't get more difficult batting conditions than the pink Kookaburra under lights when it's swinging around corners. As England is well aware.

That's swing from a pink ball under lights, it was the seam movement of the Dukes he couldn't deal with in the County Championship.

It maybe he's a confidence player who when he gets in the zone he can score lots of runs as he did during that period, but he never found that zone at Sussex.

 

[Ashes81]

So either you didn't see a ball of that Test in Hobart or you're being deliberately disingenuous here.

My point is about the pitch conditions, which seemingly everyone grasps save for you. And as for the ball, you can't get more difficult batting conditions than the pink Kookaburra under lights when it's swinging around corners. As England is well aware.

Unfortunately I did see alot of the Hobart test and as I have said previously it was a fine knock by Head in challenging conditions.

My point is that particular innings doesn't mean he's going to succeed in England this summer.

As you know, Head's record away from home is very poor, not just in England but everywhere he's played.

For whatever reasons, he clearly struggles away from home and I don't think that the Hobart knock, as fine as it was, means he'll succeed this summer.

You obviously disagree which is fine but I don't think my point is an unreasonable one given Head's overall away test record.

As ever the proof will come this summer. I think Head will struggle, you don't- time will tell.