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Viv Richards vs Steve Smith

Who is better post-peak?


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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah but England didn't really make much, and plenty of bowlers found success at moment, it might be closer to batting friendly but I don't buy it being all roads.
We can parse Tendulkar's series similar ways rather than saying 'flat era'.

Pterygium is caused by ocular exposure to the ultra violat rays of the sun, Like C'mon, I get you like Tendulkar but let's not associate Pterygium to just natural aging.
It is associated with aging but regardless the point is it is a lasting physical condition, not an external temporary injury that we give more allowance for.

I don't think Sachin 2007-2011 was a tier above in batting, without Bangladesh he averages 55 and Viv 50, while one is batting in mid 80s and Sachin had...a lot more generous wickets to say the very least. I think he was better though.
No without Bangladesh, Sachin still averages 61 in his second peak late 2007 to 2011, quite a distance from Viv.

Ykw, sure, he came closer to his peak, but Viv's peak is harder to come close to than Sachin's
Ok but Sachin at least achieved a relatively long streak of consistent dominating form in his late 30s, Viv did not.
 

Johan

International Captain
We can parse Tendulkar's series similar ways rather than saying 'flat era'.
doubt you can call Sydney wicket or the Multan wicket anything but a road

It is associated with aging but regardless the point is it is a lasting physical condition, not an external temporary injury that we give more allowance for.
the surgery made Viv's eye issues smaller allowing him to bounce back

No without Bangladesh, Sachin still averages 61 in his second peak late 2007 to 2011, quite a distance from Viv.

Ok but Sachin at least achieved a relatively long streak of consistent dominating form in his late 30s, Viv did not.
ok, I always said Sachin wins...on the account of longetivity IE extended brilliance
 

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member

Coronis

International Coach
Pterygium is caused by ocular exposure to the ultra violat rays of the sun, Like C'mon, I get you like Tendulkar but let's not associate Pterygium to just natural aging.
You mean like how naturally as people age they’ve spent more overall time exposed to the ultra violet rays of the sun?
 

Johan

International Captain
That isn't his peak, it starts around ends 2007 and ends with SA tour early 2011, then the WC 2011 after which he lost his mojo.



For whatever reason you seem to want to downplay Tendulkar hitting a second peak.
Yeah probably because I don't think it's that impressive
 

Johan

International Captain
You mean like how naturally as people age they’ve spent more overall time exposed to the ultra violet rays of the sun?
that's very dependent on where you live and your lifestyle, get less sunlight/be less exposed to elements and lower chances of getting it, it isn't just age dependent.
 

Coronis

International Coach
that's very dependent on where you live and your lifestyle, get less sunlight/be less exposed to elements and lower chances of getting it, it isn't just age dependent.
You mean like all other cricketers who would spend their days in the sun lol. And btw, there is no actual consensus on the actual cause of pterygium. Hell its claimed dust is also a factor
 

Johan

International Captain
You mean like all other cricketers who would spend their days in the sun lol. And btw, there is no actual consensus on the actual cause of pterygium. Hell its claimed dust is also a factor
Yeah but certain places are cloudy and certain places just have rougher environments, I doubt being exposed to an English afternoon is as bad for your body as being exposed to an Indian one in June (@capt_Luffy confirm or deny). Yeah the second line is why I said "elements", regardless seems environmental and external.
 

Coronis

International Coach
Yeah but certain places are cloudy and certain places just have rougher environments, I doubt being exposed to an English afternoon is as bad for your body as being exposed to an Indian one in June (@capt_Luffy confirm or deny). Yeah the second line is why I said "elements", regardless seems environmental and external.
Maybe he should’ve worn a helmet and helped protect his eyes :ph34r:
 

Johan

International Captain
Sounds like you have a pretty black/white view of these things lacking nuance. You can still rate a peak highly even if it's in a batting era rather than dismiss it entirely
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Hmmm, I rate Sachin's 4 tons against Steyn higher than anything Ponting ever did and that's about it, take it or leave it.
 

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