Users 24 years or below - pick your best team

[C_C]

Vic- no offence but Junior has no business being in that company.
He was classy but highly overrated. His suitable company is Vishwanath,Vengsarkar, Gower, Zaheer Abbass, Dean Jones, Mohammed Azharuddin etc. category.

 

[vic_orthdox]

im picking him as an allrounder. before about 1996, he was one of the best partnership breakers of all time, and his ability to eek out a good innings under pressure was oft-ignored. if he had have gone on to make massive hundreds, then he would be averaging high 40s, maybe even 50s, and be seen as a bat of the highest class

56 wickets at 40 in test cricket
85 wickets at 35 in ODIs

 

[benchmark00]

Vic- no offence but Junior has no business being in that company.
He was classy but highly overrated. His suitable company is Vishwanath,Vengsarkar, Gower, Zaheer Abbass, Dean Jones, Mohammed Azharuddin etc. category.

lol i know this is oppinion but i have to back up vic here, although i didnt have junior in my 11 i DONT think the term 'highly overrated' applied to him, i do think he is a step above gower, zaheer, jones etc.... very calssy and he would deffinately be in my 11 if i chose it on looks (in the non gay way) and entertainment... but you have a fair point C_C... although vic i have to say gilchrist is a mile better than stewart... no matter what era... may say bias but i have the backing of richie benaud,lol... but hey as long as you can make a case its fair enough

 

[C_C]

bechmark- fair comment. But i think one can successfully argue in favour of Vishwanath, Gower and Zaheer Abbass over Mark waugh.......certainly all three had the elan and class to match/beat Mark Waugh.

And i think if batting is given equal weight as keeping ( which i dont-which is why i would prefer alan Knott or Jeff Dujon over Gillchrist/Flower etc) then only three batsmen can lay claim to the topmost echelon.
And those are Gillchrist, Les Ames and Andy Flower.

 

[vic_orthdox]

stewart made those runs high in the order, under pressure without the support that gilchrist gets, on tracks that weren't as easy to bat on as what we have now against better bowling attacks, and at various stages he was opening, keeping and captaining, and still managed to do a reasonable job. and was at least an equal gloveman to gilchrist

 

[age_master]

Mark waugh was always one of my fav batsmen to watch - so much time too.

 

[benchmark00]

bechmark- fair comment. But i think one can successfully argue in favour of Vishwanath, Gower and Zaheer Abbass over Mark waugh.......certainly all three had the elan and class to match/beat Mark Waugh.

And i think if batting is given equal weight as keeping ( which i dont-which is why i would prefer alan Knott or Jeff Dujon over Gillchrist/Flower etc) then only three batsmen can lay claim to the topmost echelon.
And those are Gillchrist, Les Ames and Andy Flower.

that is a fair point C_C and well backed up....

on your last point, i do rate gilchrist as a more than handy gloveman alone, but i think for sure you would have to have him on batting alone, and theres no doubt about his batting ability....

stewart made those runs high in the order, under pressure without the support that gilchrist gets, on tracks that weren't as easy to bat on as what we have now against better bowling attacks, and at various stages he was opening, keeping and captaining, and still managed to do a reasonable job. and was at least an equal gloveman to gilchrist

lol hmm i suppose you could have somewhat of a point, although i think you cant blame gilchrist for batting so low, i just dont think stewart had the ability to turn a match in a session.... and i think gilchrist batting anywhere in the order could do that, and about the pitches and pressure i think that can be argued against, i remember the match against pakistan at belreeve oval (haha excuse my atrocious spelling) when he came to the crease with justin langer and made match winning (along with langer) hundred, and i think its more than fair to say tassie hasnt been well known for its 'batsman's paradise' style pitches... so effectively he had no top order support and was more or less batting at 3/4.... and i think theres a point to be made that stewart had batters to bat with, how many times have we seen gilly quickly running out of partners?

but you are entitled to your opinion

 

[Josh]

J.Langer [AUS]
D.Boon [AUS]
S.Tendulkar [IND]
R.Ponting (VC) [AUS]
B.Lara [WI]
M.Waugh [AUS]
A.Gilchrist (W) [AUS]
S.Warne [AUS]
Wasim Akram (C) [PAK]
C.Walsh [WI]
G.McGrath [AUS]
12th Man:
J.Kallis [SA]

 

[age_master]

ML Hayden
G Kirsten
R Dravid
BC Lara
SR Tendulkar
SR Waugh
AC Gilchrist +
SK Warne
Wasim Akram
CEL Ambrose
GD McGrath

partnerships are the key - Warne & McGrath there but i back Langer and Hayden any time, and Waqar and Wasim made a pretty devestating combo

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Here's mine:

Langer
Tendulkar
Kallis
M Crowe - one of all time favourites so had to make room for him!
S Waugh
Gilchrist
Cairns
Warne
Ambrose
Younis
McGrath

At the risk of Lara? I disown you James.

 

[marc71178]

sorry i dont rate Tendulkar that highly anymore...

If it's a team of your cricket-watching life, then there is no way anyone under 24 could exclude him.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Vic- no offence but Junior has no business being in that company.
He was classy but highly overrated. His suitable company is Vishwanath,Vengsarkar, Gower, Zaheer Abbass, Dean Jones, Mohammed Azharuddin etc. category.

IMO Gower was a superior batsman to Mark Waugh. There's also a very good case for Zaheer Abbas.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

partnerships are the key - Warne & McGrath there but i back Langer and Hayden any time, and Waqar and Wasim made a pretty devestating combo

Well then if that's your reasoning, Walsh should be there to keep Ambrose company, making it 6 bowlers. Why not Sarwan joining Lara too? This is not a team to play anyone. This is a team for picking a team's sake. I don't see where partnerships come into it.

 

[Jono]

Well then if that's your reasoning, Walsh should be there to keep Ambrose company, making it 6 bowlers. Why not Sarwan joining Lara too? This is not a team to play anyone. This is a team for picking a team's sake. I don't see where partnerships come into it.

Totally agree. Plus, I don't think Akram would mind if he had Ambrose and McGrath on the other end instead of Waqar.

 

[age_master]

partnerships isn't the sole reason, but if its close, thats the way i would go over the guys from different countries.

 

[age_master]

If it's a team of your cricket-watching life, then there is no way anyone under 24 could exclude him.

meh, watch me

 

[sledger]

meh, watch me

bad move sonny

 

[marc71178]

meh, watch me

Sorry, perhaps I should've rephrased it as:

"If it's a team of your cricket-watching life, then there is no way any sane person under 24 could exclude him."

 

[KennyD]

Totally agree. Plus, I don't think Akram would mind if he had Ambrose and McGrath on the other end instead of Waqar.

AM I horribly off, or dont Wasim and Waqar have some friction nowadays?

 

[Deja moo]

G Kirsten
M Hayden
R Dravid
S Tendulkar
B Lara
S Waugh
A Gilchrist (wk)
W Akram
S Warne
C Ambrose
G McGrath

The safe option for captain would of course be Steve Waugh . But I'd like to see Tendulkar captain. His ideas would be suitable for a team of such class.