The Inaugural World Test Championship

[Flem274*]

Well, a couple of things - if you insist NZ were lucky in 2014 ‘cause India got close, you’d better factor in Bangalore 2012 then too which India won by 5 wickets, India were 5 down with 95 needed and one wicket to the tail. As for 2009, that was pretty much a full strength India with a number of veterans versus a side which was starting from scratch thanks to ICL enforced bans and retirements, on pitches which were essentially made to order for India. Decent enough achievement but I don’t think it necessarily strengthens the conviction that India compete that much better.

mate they almost lost to chris martin and the 2010 nz side before they opened the console and cheated. i wouldn't waste my breath.

 

[sunilz]

NZ have never won a TEST , ODI , T20 series in IND.
They have never won ICC Test mace, ODI WC, WT20 .

Rest all is day dreaming and hallucination.

 

[Flem274*]

NZ have never won a TEST , ODI , T20 series in IND.

is this meant to be important or something?

spin is lame.

 

[OverratedSanity]

mate they almost lost to chris martin and the 2010 nz side before they opened the console and cheated. i wouldn't waste my breath.

Nice attempt at weaseling out of mentioning that Harbhajan Singh tonked consecutive hundreds. Say it. I know it hurts.

 

[Moss]

NZ have never won a TEST , ODI , T20 series in IND.
They have never won ICC Test mace, ODI WC, WT20 .

Rest all is day dreaming and hallucination.

This reminds me of that Shastri-Hussain spat during the 2011 India visit to England. According to Shastri,Nass and England had no right to question Indians’s refusal to adopt the DRS because “they haven’t been the bloody no.1 team, don’t criticise if you haven’t been there”. (England promptly became no.1 after that series and for an encore were tripped up by Ajmal and co in the UAE immediately after. Dark/Fun times.)

 

[sunilz]

is this meant to be important or something?

spin is lame.

?
0 series win in any format in your entire cricket history in IND.
That must be depressing.

 

[Apex Predator]

is this meant to be important or something?

spin is lame.

Lmfao so you get to decide what's important or not

 

[sunilz]

This reminds me of that Shastri-Hussain spat during the 2011 India visit to England. According to Shastri,Nass and England had no right to question Indians’s refusal to adopt the DRS because “they haven’t been the bloody no.1 team, don’t criticise if you haven’t been there”. (England promptly became no.1 after that series and for an encore were tripped up by Ajmal and co in the UAE immediately after. Dark/Fun times.)

Don't try to act over smart.
If you have missed numerous attempts by @Flem274* in past few months to troll Indian fans then it isn't our problem.

If @Flem274* doesn't stop trying to copy Burgey, next few days are going to be fun.

 

[Arachnodouche]

Gonna be hard filling out the Sardar Narendra Modi Cricket Stadium when the kiwis come touring. Probably have to host them at one of the smaller state grounds.

 

[srbhkshk]

Gonna be hard filling out the Sardar Narendra Modi Cricket Stadium when the kiwis come touring. Probably have to host them at one of the smaller state grounds.

Yes, it is fair for NZ to get a smaller ground, wouldn't want them to lag behind in the boundary count.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

No, it will be a sellout.
The Indian fans will be desperate to see their side try to get revenge against the side which knocked them out of the 2019 World Cup, thrashed them in bilateral ODIs and tests in 2020, and beat them in WTC final.

 

[honestbharani]

No, it will be a sellout.
The Indian fans will be desperate to see their side try to get revenge against the side which knocked them out of the 2019 World Cup, thrashed them in bilateral ODIs and tests in 2020, and beat them in WTC final.

The Indian home Revenge ODI series is basically the raison d'etre for bilateral ODIs.

It does not matter how badly we are blanked in tests, the Revenge ODI series wins are where it's at, babuh!!!

 

[SteveNZ]

nope. at very worst nz are #2 in the world.

im guessing you're thinking aus since i don't think anyone else is in the conversation (maybe england? geez that's a hard case to make tbh), but nz tour slightly better than aus. won our uae games, haven't dropped tests in bangladesh of all places, taken half the meagre opportunities england give us over there.

aus have the head to head but fortunately cricket exists outside india-aus-nz and thank **** for that or it'd just be called rock-paper-scissors until you ****s ruined it and lost to a C team at home containing shardul thakur ffs surrender your test status already.

I'd say we're 3rd equal. India and Australia ahead and in all conditions around the world, England are on our level. Only one man's opinion, however. But then again, we keep finding ourselves in finals so no matter what it feels like, we probably deserve to be what you're saying.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I'd say we're 3rd equal. India and Australia ahead and in all conditions around the world, England are on our level. Only one man's opinion, however. But then again, we keep finding ourselves in finals so no matter what it feels like, we probably deserve to be what you're saying.

How are England on our level? Root is their only player averaging over 40, while we've got 4 (and 6 if we count Mitchell and Jamieson). Conway and Young are better than most of their batsmen and can't even make our test team. They keep losing tests at home to the Windies and got thrashed by them in the Caribbean.

 

[sunilz]

When is AUS touring NZ next ?
That test series will determine how far NZ have progressed as a Cricket team .

I don't see any other side challenging them in NZ now. Eng also has chance if Root has monstrous series

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Dunno. We've got Bangladesh and South Africa coming next summer. It is important that we finally beat the Saffers. Next year we've got a proper 3-test tour to England with one in Ireland as well.

 

[SteveNZ]

How are England on our level? Root is their only player averaging over 40, while we've got 4 (and 6 if we count Mitchell and Jamieson). Conway and Young are better than most of their batsmen and can't even make our test team. They keep losing tests at home to the Windies and got thrashed by them in the Caribbean.

Better bowling line-up than ours, whether that's to do with spin or seaming conditions. They can pick at least three guys (Ali, Bess, Leach) who are international quality spinners whereas we have none, so they'd have that advantage over us in the right conditions. Their seam attack is probably slightly better than ours. You're probably right, our superiority in the top 4-5 probably gives us the edge though. No Root (and Stokes to a lesser degree) runs, no totals - whereas we aren't dependent on Kane like that anymore and we hope with Conway/Young that'll continue.

They might keep losing Tests to Windies etc but they also went 2-2 v Australia and won a Test in India. This side hasn't done that yet. In all conditions, maybe we are just slightly above them as you say...but it's not a big difference. They turned up here unmotivated last year (probably will do so this year too without IPL players) but in a final in neutral conditions they'd have the right to feel near as likely as us to win.

 

[Apex Predator]

How are England on our level? Root is their only player averaging over 40, while we've got 4 (and 6 if we count Mitchell and Jamieson). Conway and Young are better than most of their batsmen and can't even make our test team. They keep losing tests at home to the Windies and got thrashed by them in the Caribbean.

But they win Tests in SA & beat Sri lanka.. You guys drew in lanka if I am not wrong. Also managed to win a Test in India. Both teams are on equal footing tbf

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Last 6 tests between NZ and England.

England won after NZ blew massive 1st innings lead (this was England's last win vs NZ back in 2015).

NZ won by 200 runs. Series result 1-1 draw in England.

NZ won by an innings (bowled England out for 58).

Draw. Series result 1-0 to NZ in NZ

NZ won by an innings (scored more than 600).

Draw. Series result 1-0 to NZ in NZ.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

As an England fan I think New Zealand are a better side than us right now. Not much in it if you look at recent series results maybe, but the fragility of our batting means we're definitely a step behind the current top 3 teams. 4th is a fair ranking for the England side just now.