The Australian team - A disgrace to the game

[Linda]

I feel I should stop reading this thread, because it results in urges of bashing ones head against a wall..

 

[JASON]

This unfortunately is one of those tit for tat threads established and kept running because there are some on the forum (we all know who they are) who keep inflaming Murali's supporters with repetitive trashing and discrediting him!!

So there are others who create and maintain threads that inflame and irritate the Aussies !!

The rest of us on this forum have no other option but to read all the garbage that is posted amidst the few sensible posts and try and maintain a sense of perspective and ignore some of the threads and even some of the rubbish posters (who seem to have associations with dessert animals, colour Pink, or wooden seats) !!

 

[C_C]

How could Shane Warne and Mark Waugh be accused of match fixing, all they did was supply a bookmaker with pitch conditions didnt they??.. foolish to think thats match fixing.. and i dont know whats so bad with it

yeah. and azhar and Cronje only had dinner with the bookies.
No really.


and scully's tactic is that of the mindnumbing fanatics- keep repeating the same thing over and over and over again witout debating the point.
I give him the numerous instances of uncouth behaviour by THIS OZ team <which is backed up by MANY other folks-past greats and neutral observers-read gavaskar's speech on sledging or Viv's comments on current OZ misconducts> and contrast it with the FACT that non-OZ players have been penalised for similar/less transgressions and what does he do ?
Provide instances of penalised players.
Go figure!!

 

[benchmark00]

Why hasnt this post been closed already? its clear that all C_C is interested in is slandering a committed and talented team... its gone to the point of him personally attacking the aussie players.. geting ridiculous one feels

 

[C_C]

Why hasnt this post been closed already? its clear that all C_C is interested in is slandering a committed and talented team... its gone to the point of him personally attacking the aussie players.. geting ridiculous one feels

yes. i am slandering them.So is Cricket Australia, Gavaskar, Richards, millions of neutral fans.
Oh yes. we are all slanderers.

 

[benchmark00]

yes. i am slandering them.So is Cricket Australia, Gavaskar, Richards, millions of neutral fans.
Oh yes. we are all slanderers.

sarcasm... how intelligent.... I dont think CA Gavaskar and richards have gone to the lengths you have and agreed with the Threads title.....

 

[Scallywag]

yeah. and azhar and Cronje only had dinner with the bookies.
No really.


and scully's tactic is that of the mindnumbing fanatics- keep repeating the same thing over and over and over again witout debating the point.
I give him the numerous instances of uncouth behaviour by THIS OZ team <which is backed up by MANY other folks-past greats and neutral observers-read gavaskar's speech on sledging or Viv's comments on current OZ misconducts> and contrast it with the FACT that non-OZ players have been penalised for similar/less transgressions and what does he do ?
Provide instances of penalised players.
Go figure!!

Indian players have a shocking record when it comes to player behavoir. Your constant attempts to make it sound like Australian players are somehow a lot worse than India's is tiresome and repetitive.

Australian players are no worse and no better than most countries, the only difference is Australia cop a lot of flak from nasty backstabbing little pieces of scum that are jealous of their success.

 

[C_C]

sarcasm... how intelligent.... I dont think CA Gavaskar and richards have gone to the lengths you have and agreed with the Threads title.....

thats coz they are public figures speaking in a politically correct world media.
You dont see total frankness in the world media and if you do, its as rare as a blue moon.

Indian players have a shocking record when it comes to player behavoir. Your constant attempts to make it sound like Australian players are somehow a lot worse than India's is tiresome and repetitive.

Australian players are no worse and no better than most countries, the only difference is Australia cop a lot of flak from nasty backstabbing little pieces of scum that are jealous of their success.

Indians have a shocking record, Saffies have a comparable record, pakistanis have a comparable record etc etc. because they get hauled over for transgressions that OZ players get off scot free.

As such, instances are the relevant barometer and not the pro-aussie disciplinary commission.

As per being jealous, that is a laughable comment. For if it were jealousy, WI of the 80s would be hated a few magnitudes more than the OZ, as they were a few magnitudes more successful.
Same applies with Braddle's invincibles, who were dominant and gave opposition ample scope of jealousy.
However, those two teams are held in high regard almost universally, unlike the current OZ team- and thats because of the OZ players' behavious.

 

[sledger]

I feel I should stop reading this thread, because it results in urges of bashing ones head against a wall..

with you presumably being an aussie this doesnt suprise me.......

 

[sledger]

althoughi must say that the purpose of this thread seems to be soley to stir up bad feeling and agression between the aussies and everyone else,

but realistically who wouldnt become arrogant after the success they have had, at least they maintain their winning ways and dont get complacent, that is to their credit

 

[vic_orthdox]

please don't stereotype us australians. personally, i struggle to find someone i like in our national team.

 

[Son Of Coco]

thats coz they are public figures speaking in a politically correct world media.
You dont see total frankness in the world media and if you do, its as rare as a blue moon.




Indians have a shocking record, Saffies have a comparable record, pakistanis have a comparable record etc etc. because they get hauled over for transgressions that OZ players get off scot free.

As such, instances are the relevant barometer and not the pro-aussie disciplinary commission.

As per being jealous, that is a laughable comment. For if it were jealousy, WI of the 80s would be hated a few magnitudes more than the OZ, as they were a few magnitudes more successful.
Same applies with Braddle's invincibles, who were dominant and gave opposition ample scope of jealousy.
However, those two teams are held in high regard almost universally, unlike the current OZ team- and thats because of the OZ players' behavious.

Cronje rammed a stump through the umpires door after losing a match with a contentious decision out here and nothing was done............something an aussie would have definately been nailed for. I know it's a random example, but hey, if you can't beat 'em join 'em.

 

[sledger]

im not trying to stereotype the aussies,

i take their side in this argument which is not something i would rather do, i say credit to them to get in this position in the first place, arrogant or not it is a remarkable achievemnt really

 

[age_master]

please don't stereotype us australians. personally, i struggle to find someone i like in our national team.

hehe thats because you only like victorians

 

[Scallywag]

You seem to believe that if authorities have taken a certain line of action, it MUST be right and that is a categoric proof of guilt/not guilt.
Ie, if the authorities didnt report it, its not a crime and if the authorities did, it must be one.
That leads me to a few questions.

In 1932 <courtesy statscan>, New York City had 4277 reported assaults against blacks by whites and 1927 assaults against whites by blacks.

Out of the 4277 cases, only 74 yeilded a guilty verdict. out of the 1927 cases, 'only' 1899 yelided a guilty verdict.
Were the authorities right ?


The authorities in australia, in 1910s and 20s, decreed that aboriginal populace must live seggregated from the white populace for they were inferior in breed.
Were they right ?

The authorities in South Africa, in 1970s and 80s, deemed that blacks were inferior to whites. Were the authorities right ?

You assume that the 'authorities' are infallible. Therefore, what they report must be crimes and what they dont cannot be. Which is stupid to say the least, considering that authorities have been shown to be fallible in countless cases.

however, when ACTUAL INSTANCES of bad behaviour are examined, THIS aussie crop wins the race by a country mile over any other nation.

Australia, South Africa and the US have taken steps to correct these past differences but India continues to burn live women.


INDIAN WOMEN'S ISSUES : INDIA has an elaborate laws to protect the rights of women, including the Prevention of Immoral Traffic, the Sati (widow burning) Act, and the Dowry Prevention Act. Women and children have figured prominently in the government's agenda of social reforms and initiatives.

However the Government is often unable to enforce these laws, especially in rural areas where traditions are deeply rooted. Dowry, Female bondage and forced prostitution are widespread in some parts of India.

Many obstacles to the realization of women's human rights in India, are social and cultural in nature, deeply rooted in the traditions of its communities.

Sati is the practice through which widows are voluntarily or forcibly burned alive on their husband's funeral pyre. It was banned in 1829, but had to be banned again in 1956 after a resurgence. There was another revival of the practice in 1981 with another prevention ordinance passed in 1987 (Morgan 1984). The idea justifying sati is that women have worth only in relation to men. This illustrates women's lack of status as individuals in India

 

[Dasa]

Hmm... is it worth it to respond to such rubbish? I think not, but I'll do so anyway.
There are plenty of things in Aus society that aren't positive as well... so don't try to claim that Aussies are inherently better than Indians or anything else.

 

[Scallywag]

Hmm... is it worth it to respond to such rubbish? I think not, but I'll do so anyway.
There are plenty of things in Aus society that aren't positive as well... so don't try to claim that Aussies are inherently better than Indians or anything else.

I'm not trying to claim that Aussies are inherently better than Indians, my claim is Aussies are no better or worse than anybody.

This is in response to the claim that Aussies are worse than everybody else.

 

[dinu23]

there is no question that australians are on top when it comes to sledging. but they are not the only ones.

 

[vic_orthdox]

hehe thats because you only like victorians

hahaha. well, if it makes you sleep at night, i don't really like warne either.

and i do like plenty of people from other states. i don't htink i've slandered many players from other states at all. but i've promoted my own states interests, like the corrupt individual i am should do.

 

[Scallywag]

there is no question that australians are on top when it comes to sledging. but they are not the only ones.

I disagree, a team does not sledge, players do and Australia like all teams have players that sledge. McGrath is a known sledger but there are players that are worse than McGrath, Ganguly and Harbhajan Singh spring to mind.

I think the problem dinu23 is that if an Australian player says something there are lots of jelous opposition supporters waiting to exaggerate the situation and blow it up to attempt to make the Australian player look bad.
When their own players say something then they think that the opposition deserved it or started it and their player didnt do anything wrong.

You are a prime example, you have absolutely no idea who says what on the field in almost all the tests played yet you seem to have the authority to declare that Australia are "on top" when it comes to sledging.