The Australian team - A disgrace to the game

[MoxPearl]

Has there ever been a big fight in the middle of the cricket pitch ? ive never seen one

Sledging is part of sport..... no matter if u like it or not.... cricket is NOT a gentlemans sport anymore sorry lads.

The problem with sledging in cricket is that its a non contact sport... i mean in rugby for example.. u get people punching each other all the time etc.. its just part of the game.. but with cricket its all verbal.. which people can take way 2 serously... or attacks can get way 2 personal (Eg racist comments) ... also u have a umpire in the middle who is way 2 serious and will report any little piece of crap

I like seeing a bit of niggle in cricket... eg the bowler talking **** to the batter.. then the batter hitting him outta the ground... ive seen cairns do it several times.

Thats why i like watching andre adams play.. he dont take no ****.. and can give it just as good

But like i said.. as soon as it gets racial then u have problems

 

[C_C]

Australia, South Africa and the US have taken steps to correct these past differences but India continues to burn live women.


INDIAN WOMEN'S ISSUES : INDIA has an elaborate laws to protect the rights of women, including the Prevention of Immoral Traffic, the Sati (widow burning) Act, and the Dowry Prevention Act. Women and children have figured prominently in the government's agenda of social reforms and initiatives.

However the Government is often unable to enforce these laws, especially in rural areas where traditions are deeply rooted. Dowry, Female bondage and forced prostitution are widespread in some parts of India.

Many obstacles to the realization of women's human rights in India, are social and cultural in nature, deeply rooted in the traditions of its communities.

Sati is the practice through which widows are voluntarily or forcibly burned alive on their husband's funeral pyre. It was banned in 1829, but had to be banned again in 1956 after a resurgence. There was another revival of the practice in 1981 with another prevention ordinance passed in 1987 (Morgan 1984). The idea justifying sati is that women have worth only in relation to men. This illustrates women's lack of status as individuals in India

such propaganda and bold faced lies.....LOL.
Sati happes once in a blue moon in the remote corners of India.......thats a lot less frequent than the discrimination the aborigines face in Australia TO THIS DAY.

This example was quoted by me to show you instaces where the authorities are NOT infallible- authorities you are so adept at quoting instead of comparing INSTANCES of bad behaviour.
Quoting authorities is irrelevant- thats like a white man quoting authorities from the 1920s showing that the black man was 'more criminal'.

I'm not trying to claim that Aussies are inherently better than Indians, my claim is Aussies are no better or worse than anybody.

This is in response to the claim that Aussies are worse than everybody else.

Gavaskar in his speech on sledging said that the current Aussies are the WORST.
Viv said the same thing.
Cricket Australia admitted that the aussie players need to improve their behaviour and on field image.
The instances of aussie abuse and going scot free are numerous. As such, you quoting instances where disciplinary action was taken is irrelevant a poor attempt to cover up the aussie hiney.

I disagree, a team does not sledge, players do and Australia like all teams have players that sledge. McGrath is a known sledger but there are players that are worse than McGrath, Ganguly and Harbhajan Singh spring to mind.

Ganguly and Harbhajan have not said anything uncouth like what McGrath did to Sarwan- perhaps its his upbringing but pidge is the worst sledger in cricket today- great bowler but a top notch tosser IMO.

You are a prime example, you have absolutely no idea who says what on the field in almost all the tests played yet you seem to have the authority to declare that Australia are "on top" when it comes to sledging.

we dont know everything that is said in the middle but any avid cricket watcher knows SOME of the things said in the middle. And based on the limited evidence so far, the current aussie bunch are the most uncouth of all.
there has been no recorded sledge as bad as McGrath's one to sarwan, no racial remark as bad as Lehmann's.....

 

[marc71178]

Has there ever been a big fight in the middle of the cricket pitch ? ive never seen one

Lillee and Miandad came close...

 

[Swervy]

Lillee and Miandad came close...

its was more like handbags to be honest

 

[Scallywag]

Gavaskar in his speech on sledging said that the current Aussies are the WORST.
Viv said the same thing......

Gavaskar and Viv have no idea what goes on the field and are limited to only hearing stories from players from their own country.

And it was interesting to note Viv made many remarks about Australia and suprise suprise he had a book to flog.

Cricket Australia admitted that the aussie players need to improve their behaviour and on field image......

Its a pity India wont do the same with mad Ganguly and psycho Harbijan constantly spewing their filth. And dont forget Pathan who is allready the stupidest medium pace bowler to play.

Ganguly and Harbhajan have not said anything uncouth like what McGrath did to Sarwan- perhaps its his upbringing but pidge is the worst sledger in cricket today- great bowler but a top notch tosser IMO......

Harbhajan Singh
India v South Africa, TVS Cup (ODI)
13th April 2003 at Dhaka
Breach of Code 2.9 – the player directed foul and abusive language at the umpire

Sourav Ganguly Sri Lanka v India ODI
1 August 2001 at SSC Colombo Breach of Code 2 after gesturing and speaking to Sri Lankan batsman after he had dismissed him. Found guilty

Irfan Pathan India v Pakistan , Only ODI
13th November 2004 at Kolkata Breach of Code 2.5 - Inappropriate and deliberate physical contact between Players in the course of play.

we dont know everything that is said in the middle but any avid cricket watcher knows SOME of the things said in the middle. And based on the limited evidence so far, the current aussie bunch are the most uncouth of all.
there has been no recorded sledge as bad as McGrath's one to sarwan, no racial remark as bad as Lehmann's.....

Of course the evidence is against you, Pathan physically attacking players, Harbijan is on record as directing foul and abusive language at the umpire, and Ganguly has proven he is the worst player and worst captain in cricket.

Perhaps its the culture of Ganguly, Pathan and Harbijan to act the way they do, maybe they just dont know any better.

 

[C_C]

Gavaskar and Viv have no idea what goes on the field and are limited to only hearing stories from players from their own country.

And it was interesting to note Viv made many remarks about Australia and suprise suprise he had a book to flog.

listen- i would take Gavaskar's and Viv's word ANY DAY OF THE WEEK over your little deluded imagination.

Like i said, this OZ team is the most unpopular champion team ever.......Bradman's invincibles had almsot universal adoration and so did the WI of the 80s- this one by contrast is viewed negetively with respect to their attitude almost universally.
And i guess Viv had a book to flog.....so then, what is Gavaskar's excuse ?

Its a pity India wont do the same with mad Ganguly and psycho Harbijan constantly spewing their filth. And dont forget Pathan who is allready the stupidest medium pace bowler to play

the stupidest medium pacer ever gotto be Adam dale- proclaiming he wants to bounce tendy and getting dispatched outta the ground promptly for that.
As with Ganguly and Harby- like i said, they havnt said anything REMOTELY as foul as Pidge did.

Harbhajan Singh
India v South Africa, TVS Cup (ODI)
13th April 2003 at Dhaka
Breach of Code 2.9 – the player directed foul and abusive language at the umpire

Sourav Ganguly Sri Lanka v India ODI
1 August 2001 at SSC Colombo Breach of Code 2 after gesturing and speaking to Sri Lankan batsman after he had dismissed him. Found guilty

Irfan Pathan India v Pakistan , Only ODI
13th November 2004 at Kolkata Breach of Code 2.5 - Inappropriate and deliberate physical contact between Players in the course of play.

your head is really hard isnt it ?
Not surprised as fanatics tend to be idiots.
I've stated numerous times that judgements in th case of code of conduct is irrelevant- i've shown that there is a clear pro-aussie bias to this.

Of course the evidence is against you, Pathan physically attacking players, Harbijan is on record as directing foul and abusive language at the umpire, and Ganguly has proven he is the worst player and worst captain in cricket.

Perhaps its the culture of Ganguly, Pathan and Harbijan to act the way they do, maybe they just dont know any better.

hahahaha
Au contraire. The evidence is against YOU.
Like i said, discuss the incidents or shut the hell up.
Ganguly has proven he is the worst player and teh worst cappo ?
No mate- that honor belongs to another aussie- kim hughes. Bawled like a baby outta his league and resigned.
Harbhajan directed foul language towards the umpire but nothing even REMOTELY close to what McGrath said to Sarwan.

whether you like it or not, this aussie team is almost universally despised and their record has nothing to do with it - its their attitude on field. For if it were just plain jealousy of a successful team, the WI of the 80s and Bradman's invincibles would've been despited too. But they were not- they were highly popular due to their humble and no-nonsense approach.
You can like it or lump it but i can reel of many many instances where this aussie team acted like hooligans.
Harby got pulled up for saying 'DAMN' to the umpire....but Warne got off scot free for yelling at Aleem Dar and saying 'LOOK AT THE SCREEN'.
clear case of pro-aussie bias in the disciplinary committee.
Not to mention, fatboy druggie should've been banned for a longer duration of time ( only in cricket you see a convicted drug-abuser get away with a one-year ban only).

 

[age_master]

its all about context of comments like some of those... you dont know the context, you can get things very wrong...

 

[Scallywag]

whether you like it or not, this aussie team is almost universally despised and their record has nothing to do with it - its their attitude on field. For if it were just plain jealousy of a successful team, the WI of the 80s and Bradman's invincibles would've been despited too. But they were not- they were highly popular due to their humble and no-nonsense approach.
You can like it or lump it but i can reel of many many instances where this aussie team acted like hooligans.
Harby got pulled up for saying 'DAMN' to the umpire....but Warne got off scot free for yelling at Aleem Dar and saying 'LOOK AT THE SCREEN'.
clear case of pro-aussie bias in the disciplinary committee.
Not to mention, fatboy druggie should've been banned for a longer duration of time ( only in cricket you see a convicted drug-abuser get away with a one-year ban only).

All we have here is a jealous Indian supporter who is still crying because Australia beat India at home even when they tried cheating and demanding that the curators prepare sub standard pitches to try and bring Australia down to the gutter with India.

Every game India lose you try to blame the umpire or the ICC.

India have been proven to be the worst behaved and with cheats like Tendukar and Dravid teamed up Harbijan the foul mouth, and pshco Pathan (didnt he abuse some poor kid in the Pak u/19 team as well as physically attack a player ) led by the most reported and penalized player ever to play cricket Ganguly the thug.

It must really burn you up inside C_C knowing how good Australia are and even with the cheating there is no way India can even compete with Australia.

Maybe you shouldent watch Australia play if it affects you so much.

 

[Retox]

All we have here is a jealous Indian supporter who is still crying because Australia beat India at home even when they tried cheating and demanding that the curators prepare sub standard pitches to try and bring Australia down to the gutter with India.

In the last ODI vs NZ (Washed out) The nzers were called "cry babies" for complaining how AUSTRALIA changed the pitch to combat Danny Boy. But When Australia was in India they complained the pitches were made to help India. So its ok for Australia to change pitches and "cheat' but not india?

Granted these pitch changes were on differnt levels but surely you can't say India "cheated" when Australia (and all other nationals) Do the same thing (probally not on the level of those pitches)

 

[Son Of Coco]

In the last ODI vs NZ (Washed out) The nzers were called "cry babies" for complaining how AUSTRALIA changed the pitch to combat Danny Boy. But When Australia was in India they complained the pitches were made to help India. So its ok for Australia to change pitches and "cheat' but not india?

Granted these pitch changes were on differnt levels but surely you can't say India "cheated" when Australia (and all other nationals) Do the same thing (probally not on the level of those pitches)

I'm not quite sure how they actually got a chance to see the pitch in proper match condition as it rained here all week making it very hard to properly prepare anything at that time I'd imagine. If the pitch was a bit greener or whatever it could have just been down to the fact that it hadn't been properly prepared due to the conditions. I don't think any first day Brisbane pitch is ever a spinner's paradise though.

 

[marc71178]

Not to mention, fatboy druggie should've been banned for a longer duration of time ( only in cricket you see a convicted drug-abuser get away with a one-year ban only).

And you preach to others about not looking at facts.

 

[C_C]

All we have here is a jealous Indian supporter who is still crying because Australia beat India at home even when they tried cheating and demanding that the curators prepare sub standard pitches to try and bring Australia down to the gutter with India.

absolute falsehood.
Find me ONE post where i've knocked Aussie wins and i said they won because of umpiring help....you seem to believe that, not me. I've been knocking THIS australian team's attitude.
As per cheating, IND cheated just as much by preparing a square turner as OZ by preparing a fast bouncy perth wicket.
If you go to other nations, you are expected to play on whatever they serve up.
I didnt offer AUS pitches as an excuse ever, so i suggest you dont do either and admit that one real chink in AUS armour is playing spin in IND.

Every game India lose you try to blame the umpire or the ICC.

An absolute bold faced lie.
Show me ONE post where i credited IND loss to the umpires.

India have been proven to be the worst behaved and with cheats like Tendukar and Dravid teamed up Harbijan the foul mouth, and pshco Pathan (didnt he abuse some poor kid in the Pak u/19 team as well as physically attack a player ) led by the most reported and penalized player ever to play cricket Ganguly the thug.

Another bold-faced lie. I've given numerous examples on how Aussies get prefferential treatment from the disciplinary committee.
As per Tendulkar, ICC rescended the ball tampering allegation.
Ganguly may be the most reported player but McGrath and Lehmann are bigger thugs than him- only thing is they dont get hauled up.

It must really burn you up inside C_C knowing how good Australia are and even with the cheating there is no way India can even compete with Australia.

anotehr bold-faced lie. No way IND can compete with OZ ?
Yes i suppose that is right- which is why in the last 18 tests between them, IND has won 7, OZ won 8 and 3 matches were drawn.

You can take your boldfaced LIES somewhere else and live in eternal denial but they wont wash with me.

And you preach to others about not looking at facts.

Its a fact he took banned drugs and its a fact that for similar offences in other sports, the ban is a lot more than one year.

 

[marc71178]

Its a fact he took banned drugs and its a fact that for similar offences in other sports, the ban is a lot more than one year.

It was a masking agent, and once does not make him a druggie.

 

[Son Of Coco]

absolute falsehood.
Find me ONE post where i've knocked Aussie wins and i said they won because of umpiring help....you seem to believe that, not me. I've been knocking THIS australian team's attitude.
As per cheating, IND cheated just as much by preparing a square turner as OZ by preparing a fast bouncy perth wicket.
If you go to other nations, you are expected to play on whatever they serve up.
I didnt offer AUS pitches as an excuse ever, so i suggest you dont do either and admit that one real chink in AUS armour is playing spin in IND.


An absolute bold faced lie.
Show me ONE post where i credited IND loss to the umpires.


Another bold-faced lie. I've given numerous examples on how Aussies get prefferential treatment from the disciplinary committee.
As per Tendulkar, ICC rescended the ball tampering allegation.
Ganguly may be the most reported player but McGrath and Lehmann are bigger thugs than him- only thing is they dont get hauled up.




anotehr bold-faced lie. No way IND can compete with OZ ?
Yes i suppose that is right- which is why in the last 18 tests between them, IND has won 7, OZ won 8 and 3 matches were drawn.

You can take your boldfaced LIES somewhere else and live in eternal denial but they wont wash with me.



Its a fact he took banned drugs and its a fact that for similar offences in other sports, the ban is a lot more than one year.

THere's a big difference between the two wickets you describe. Perth's always been bouncy, I have my doubts that the wicket in India always played like that otherwise it wouldn't still be on the International rota.

Lehmann was suspended for his actions so I'm not sure how that's favourable treatment.

If playing spin in India was a chink in our armour then we wouldn't have won the last series and gone so close the series before in India (before a super effort from Laxman denied us). It has been a problem in the past though yes.....on the last wicket anyone would have had a problem playing spin - evidence of this is the fact that India struggled on their own wicket and Clarke took 6/9 (this is someone who is part time and hasn't bowled since by the way).

 

[benchmark00]

Just a little side note.... I see the Aussies donated their prizemoney from the Boxing Day test to the tsunami and earthquake victims in South-East Asia. Im not suggesting for one minute that no other team would do that, but im simply saying that it shows that if anything, the Australian Cricket team is a credit to the game, the opposite to what this thread suggests...

 

[Wombat]

Ur Kidding Right?

What the Aussies are, are benchmark setters for all other cricketing countries to try and achieve. Australia takes pride in the way they selected and bring up there players and other teams just arent doing that or arent leaving in players long enough to give them some time to grow.

West Indies were the bench mark in the 70/80's but there've gone backwards though seeing as they havent learnt how to utilise every department in their squads.

Australia have just set the mark, its not our fault that no other teams can match them, a change of administration and attitude in teams would bring a big turn around in world cricket. Look at England their finally starting to produce something after 13 years.

 

[C_C]

It was a masking agent, and once does not make him a druggie.

Tell that to the IAAF and all those atheletes who've been banned due to masking agents.
Masking agents are automaic implicit proof of your doping in the eyes of the IAAF and same standards apply.
Ben Johnsson was guilty of a masking agent and the BAALCO fiasco that is going on currently have most of its proofs of HGH detection on masking agents.

THere's a big difference between the two wickets you describe. Perth's always been bouncy, I have my doubts that the wicket in India always played like that otherwise it wouldn't still be on the International rota.

irrelevant.
Perth was always bouncy and mumbai always turns.
Perth is not as 'horrid' as that match i specified, where the wicket was far below standard.

Lehmann was suspended for his actions so I'm not sure how that's favourable treatment.

suspended ? you sure ?
I may be wrong but i recollect that clive lloyd(the match refferee) not doing anything because of the 'he said-she said' nature of the case.
And even if he was suspended, again, its a slap on the wrist- racial offenses result in FAR bigger penalty.

If playing spin in India was a chink in our armour then we wouldn't have won the last series and gone so close the series before in India (before a super effort from Laxman denied us). It has been a problem in the past though yes.....on the last wicket anyone would have had a problem playing spin - evidence of this is the fact that India struggled on their own wicket and Clarke took 6/9 (this is someone who is part time and hasn't bowled since by the way).

playing spin in IND is still a chink in aussie armor. The team is a great one and good enough to mask/compensate for this particular chink but the standard of batsmanship drops a few notches when aussies are facing indian spinners in india. A chink in the armor implies your weak point and this one qualifies.
You guys won in IND because OVERALL the aussies were a superior team.

Just a little side note.... I see the Aussies donated their prizemoney from the Boxing Day test to the tsunami and earthquake victims in South-East Asia. Im not suggesting for one minute that no other team would do that, but im simply saying that it shows that if anything, the Australian Cricket team is a credit to the game, the opposite to what this thread suggests...

that has nothing to do with the original point about the BEHAVIOUR of the aussie players on and off field.
And in this PR-oriented world of ours today, i would be surprised if even Saddam doesnt pledge some sorta economic support.

[qoute]
Australia have just set the mark, its not our fault that no other teams can match them, a change of administration and attitude in teams would bring a big turn around in world cricket. Look at England their finally starting to produce something after 13 years.[/quote]

agreed on all counts when it comes to the standard of cricket played- aussies are peerless in cricket today. But that has nothing to do with the original point about aussie on field behaviour.

 

[benchmark00]

that has nothing to do with the original point about the BEHAVIOUR of the aussie players on and off field.
And in this PR-oriented world of ours today, i would be surprised if even Saddam doesnt pledge some sorta economic support.

Ofcourse it has to do with it, are you stupid!!?!?!?!?.... by giving this support the public will see the cricket community as charatable and a group that are magnificant... this has EVERYTHING to do with the original point... this is doing something for the games reputation... look at the thread title!!!!! they truly are a credit to the game......


and your last comment really does sadden me.... you are so.... dare i say, 'anti australian' that you cant even see how dispicable that comment was.... get a life man, that was the worst post i have seen on this forum since i have been here

 

[C_C]

and your last comment really does sadden me.... you are so.... dare i say, 'anti australian' that you cant even see how dispicable that comment was.... get a life man, that was the worst post i have seen on this forum since i have been here

I am not anti-australian, i just am not pro-australian. i am not pro-anything, i just call it like i see it.
And whats so despicable ?
the fact that today's world is one of political correctness-driven PR stunt ?
Like i said, i would be surprised if even Saddam didnt offer some financial assistance.

 

[benchmark00]

I am not anti-australian, i just am not pro-australian. i am not pro-anything, i just call it like i see it.
And whats so despicable ?
the fact that today's world is one of political correctness-driven PR stunt ?
Like i said, i would be surprised if even Saddam didnt offer some financial assistance.

So are you suggesting that the only reason Australia gave their money was because they wanted to look good?.... thats what i think is dispicable