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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

h_hurricane

International Vice-Captain
Back to Jadeja to increase the IQ - irritability quotient - of this thread.

What would be more difficult for Jadeja in the 2nd half of his career? Replicate his bowling feat from the 1st half of his career or pull his batting average up to 40 and thereabouts?

And if Jadeja does manage to end with 400 wickets and ~4500 runs at 40 then would he be equal to Sobers?
If Jadeja's last 6 years follow the same averages as Imran Khan, he would end up retaining his bowling average of 24 and have a batting average of 44.

For sure, will there be any debate on the best bowling allrounder in history if that happens. :laugh:
 

Coronis

International Coach
Ind:

Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Tendulkar
Kohli
Dhoni +
Kapil
Jadeja
Ashwin/Kumble
Srinath
Shami

Pak:

Hanif
Saeed
Younis
Javed
Inzamam
Mushtaq
Imran
Sarfaraz/whoever you want +
Wasim
Saqlain
Waqar

Not much in the comparison. I'd say Pak cause pace bowling, but if it's on a turner then Ind may have a slight edge.
I’d much rather have MoYo in there, rather than Mushtaq.
 

Noumenon

U19 Vice-Captain
I would have Bumrah over Srinath even now. Arguably already had a slightly better career than Srinath.
Srinath was a better quick than Shami. Wouldn't put much faith in bald numbers given the attack compositions they were part of. If Bumrah has a successful tour of ENG, he'd walk in the XI. Kapil, Bumrah and Srinath paired with Ashwin and Jadeja would be formidable everywhere.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Back to Jadeja to increase the IQ - irritability quotient - of this thread.

What would be more difficult for Jadeja in the 2nd half of his career? Replicate his bowling feat from the 1st half of his career or pull his batting average up to 40 and thereabouts?

And if Jadeja does manage to end with 400 wickets and ~4500 runs at 40 then would he be equal to Sobers?

*Incredibility Quotient
 

h_hurricane

International Vice-Captain
Ashwin averages 40 and Jadeja 36 with the ball in tests against SENA in away+netural conditons. ATG my ass. What a disgrace to the tag
I actually had a look at Waqar's record in some countries as I had a suspicion his record wouldn't be as rounded as some of the other ATGs.

Found that he averages 29 in SENA+India+WI. Kind of taken aback, as I thought he was a lot better than this. And he couldn't hold a bat unlike Imran, Kapil, Jadeja or to a much lesser degree Wasim, who would contribute with the bat when they are not having the best days with the ball.

My impression of Waqar has gone down a lot after this exercise.

 

Noumenon

U19 Vice-Captain
Besides Bumrah, Pant is on track to replace Dhoni in Indian XI. If Pant's form holds, he would have scored, incredibly enough, half of Dhoni's test runs in the next 10 months. Very likely the Indian ATG XI would be revised to look like this in March '22.

S Gavaskar
V Sehwag
R Dravid
S Tendulkar
V Kohli
R Pant
R Jadeja
Kapil Dev
R Ashwin
J Srinath
J Bumrah
 

Burgey

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S Gavaskar
V Sehwag
R Dravid
S Tendulkar
V Kohli
R Pant
R Jadeja
Kapil Dev
R Ashwin
J Srinath
J Bumrah
Not a lot to show for nearly 80 years of test cricket, is it?

Edit: Pant is awesome though. Terrific player to watch
 

Noumenon

U19 Vice-Captain
Not a lot to show for nearly 80 years of test cricket, is it?

Edit: Pant is awesome though. Terrific player to watch
True, we are easily satisfied. Like taking a steaming dump on the collective face of Australia in 3 series straight.
 

Burgey

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I’m really looking forward to seeing our blokes wallowing in that material again when they tour.
 

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