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FineThat series doesn't matter, the fact Lillee took 52 wkts to Imran's 40 wkts in same 10 tests says a lot
FineThat series doesn't matter, the fact Lillee took 52 wkts to Imran's 40 wkts in same 10 tests says a lot
25, he took 6 wickets IIRCWhat was imran average in those two games
Wow 25 on roads is just amzing25, he took 6 wickets IIRC
Well Imran did later admit to using a bottle cap on the ball back then and he did also get 50% of his wkts lbw that series which was during the infamous Pakistan home umpire eraWow 25 on roads is just amzing
ShockingWell Imran did later admit to using a bottle cap on the ball back then and he did get 50% of his wkts lbw that series which was during the infamous Pakistan home umpire era
Questionable as well. Imran admitted to using a bottlecap in a County Game once. If he ever did such a thing in Tests, it most likely was in his 40 wickets India series. Re LBW, it's not like Australian umpires were some beacons of fair play as well. Gavaskar walked off with his partner Chauhan once given a piss poor lbw off of Lillee himself. So downplaying Imran totally makes no literal sense. Also should be mentioned, I believe Imran played in Australia a series as a frontline batsman (though that was post Lillee probs) and hardly bowled in one due to injury (Lillee played that IIRC, though can be wrong there). Once you account for home pitch and batting line-up advantage of Lillee......Shocking
I mean, I do think it should be mentioned most of those Tests were played in Lillee's home...... I am sure you won't disagree that being a massive advantage.This is typical CW. I make a post to show how great Lillee bowled in tests compared to 5 ATG bowlers he played in same test with (Imran, Hadlee, Holding, Roberts and Garner) and the story immediately goes to how Lillee bowled in "that" series in Pakistan
That doesn't apply for Hadlee and are you seriously suggesting Holding, Roberts and Garner wouldn't prefer to bowl in Australia rather than West Indies?I mean, I do think it should be mentioned most of those Tests were played in Lillee's home...... I am sure you won't disagree that being a massive advantage.
I don't know what was your earlier post but I agree with your sentiment here. Lillee's entire career on this forum is reduced to his lack of subcontinent success. That is what we talk about 99% of the time Lillee is mentioned. In last ~15 years on this forum I have learned about great performances of many players who were before my time, but nothing about Lillee's.This is typical CW. I make a post to show how great Lillee bowled in tests compared to 5 ATG bowlers he played in same test with (Imran, Hadlee, Holding, Roberts and Garner) and the story immediately goes to how Lillee bowled in "that" series in Pakistan
Hadlee bowled to significantly better batsmen, and home advantage against the WI quicks isn't just about where they will prefer to bowl, it's where they are most used to and where he won't.That doesn't apply for Hadlee and are you seriously suggesting Holding, Roberts and Garner wouldn't prefer to bowl in Australia rather than West Indies?
I also included games against Snow, Willis and Botham where home games were split. Even I was surprised at how much better Lillee did against the very good English pace bowlers at that time
Sorry but the stats I provided were literally the closest direct comparison you can make as it was for when these guys played in the exact same conditions in the same tests. What would give a better "factual" conparison than that?Just think this direct comparison doesn't works that well with Imran, Hadlee and WI quicks (to an extent, he did bowled to better batsmen in 79, though had the advantage in 76).
Overall career comparison. What you are doing is like comparing what Cummins, Anderson and Rabada did in matches with Ashwin, except almost all of them were played in India.Sorry but the stats I provided were literally the closest comparison you can make as it was for when these guys played in the exact same conditions in the same tests. What would give a better "factual" conparison than that?
Can you provide the similar type of description about Frank Roro? Don't think I know much about him.Joe Misso was born on 1 March 1920. He attended St Peter's College Colombo. Among the hundreds he scored there were two against St Joseph's College.
He was a left-hand bat with a sound defence who put away the bad ball. In 1956 he left Ceylon for England, by which time he had scored 168 centuries, all non first-class. In 1938 he scored 4236 runs with 18 centuries. Misso recorded another 142 hundreds in England for various clubs, mainly Teddington Town, Great Western Railway, Turnham Green and Brentham. His last hundred was in 1978. Misso died in 2011.
His 310 centuries are a record for all cricket.
Regarding the England uncapped XI, James Langridge played Tests. It was his brother John who was not picked.