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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

International Coach
Hey @trundler , any names for a Pakistan uncapped XI?? Can't think of anyone but Raees Mohammad (which is strange as I marked down atleast 4-5 for all the others before any research)
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
Van_Sri said:
1980s Test Team : 1) Gordon Greenidge 2) Desmond Haynes 3) Viv Richards 4) Martin Crowe 5) Javed Miandad 6) Allan Border 7) Jeff Dujon 8) Imran Khan 9) Richard Hadlee 10) Malcolm Marshall 11) Joel Garner. I always had a doubt how good was David Gower ? Can he make this Team ?
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In what universe does Desmond Haynes make a team over Sunil Gavaskar?
 
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Van_Sri

School Boy/Girl Captain
Coronis said:
In what universe does Desmond Haynes make a team over Sunil Gavaskar?
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Gavaskar belongs to 70s more than 80s, also how good was David Gower compared to Javed Miandad is another question, was there any other opener better than Haynes in 80s to replace him
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
Van_Sri said:
Gavaskar belongs to 70s more than 80s, also how good was David Gower compared to Javed Miandad is another question, was there any other opener better than Haynes in 80s to replace him
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Gavaskar played 65 matches in the 80’s and 60 in the 70’s. He himself was better in the 70’s but he was still easily better than Haynes in the 80’s.
 
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Van_Sri

School Boy/Girl Captain
Coronis said:
Gavaskar played 65 matches in the 80’s and 60 in the 70’s. He himself was better in the 70’s but he was still easily better than Haynes in the 80’s.
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Gavaskar was the highest run scorer in 70s and he won’t be in a 70s team what a joke. Just tell if there is better opener than Haynes in 80s apart from Gavaskar and greenidge.
 
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peterhrt

U19 Captain
slcricfan1 said:
Who on earth is Joe misso?
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Joe Misso was born on 1 March 1920. He attended St Peter's College Colombo. Among the hundreds he scored there were two against St Joseph's College.

He was a left-hand bat with a sound defence who put away the bad ball. In 1956 he left Ceylon for England, by which time he had scored 168 centuries, all non first-class. In 1938 he scored 4236 runs with 18 centuries. Misso recorded another 142 hundreds in England for various clubs, mainly Teddington Town, Great Western Railway, Turnham Green and Brentham. His last hundred was in 1978. Misso died in 2011.

His 310 centuries are a record for all cricket.

Regarding the England uncapped XI, James Langridge played Tests. It was his brother John who was not picked.
 
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Van_Sri

School Boy/Girl Captain
1980s Team : Gooch, Greenidge, Richards, Crowe, Miandad, Border, Dujon, Imran, Hadlee, Marshall, Garner - A Team Almost Unbeatable. 5 Players from West Indies, 2 Players from Pakistan, 2 Players from New Zealand, 1 Player each from Australia and England.
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
Van_Sri said:
Cannot include one player in 2 teams. Graham Gooch will be there. David Gower can also come in the place of Miandad
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Does Len Hutton go in the 40’s or 50’s team? Same with Lindwall and Miller. Which team does Hobbs belong to? What about Trueman?
 
Q

Qlder

International Regular
I'm a big fan of Lillee so I was wondering what his record was when bowling in the same Tests as other ATG pace bowlers. I'm thinking the following shows that Lillee was generally never outbowled by any ATG opposition pacer when bowling in the exact same conditions.

Lillee: 52 wkts @ 27.32 (10 tests together)
Imran: 40 wkts @ 24.37

Lillee: 48 wkts @ 26.41 (10 tests)
Holding: 44 wkts @ 26.47

Lillee: 41 wkts @ 25.60 (9 tests)
Roberts: 36 wkts @ 26.33

Lillee: 38 wkts @ 19.47 (8 tests)
Hadlee: 39 wkts @ 24 20

Lillee: 28 wkts @ 24.35 (6 tests)
Garner: 26 wkts @ 22.15

Also added these 3 as they played the most Tests against Lillee

Lillee: 109 wkts @ 21.88 (18 tests)
Willis: 63 wkts @ 29.22

Lillee: 71 wkts @ 21.67 (11 tests)
Botham: 56 wkts @ 23.94

Lillee: 60 wkts @ 20.11 (11 tests)
Snow: 40 wkts @ 27.95
 
G

govinda indian fan

State Vice-Captain
Qlder said:
I'm a big fan of Lillee so I was wondering what his record was when bowling in the same Tests as other ATG pace bowlers. I'm thinking the following shows that Lillee was generally never outbowled by any ATG opposition pacer when bowling in the exact same conditions.

Lillee: 52 wkts @ 27.32 (10 tests together)
Imran: 40 wkts @ 24.37

Lillee: 48 wkts @ 26.41 (10 tests)
Holding: 44 wkts @ 26.47

Lillee: 41 wkts @ 25.60 (9 tests)
Roberts: 36 wkts @ 26.33

Lillee: 38 wkts @ 19.47 (8 tests)
Hadlee: 39 wkts @ 24 20

Lillee: 28 wkts @ 24.35 (6 tests)
Garner: 26 wkts @ 22.15

Also added these 3 as they played the most Tests against Lillee

Lillee: 109 wkts @ 21.88 (18 tests)
Willis: 63 wkts @ 29.22

Lillee: 71 wkts @ 21.67 (11 tests)
Botham: 56 wkts @ 23.94

Lillee: 60 wkts @ 20.11 (11 tests)
Snow: 40 wkts @ 27.95
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Is Lillee s average 27 vs imran becuase he played on those dead tracks in pakistan made specially to counter him
 
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