Starfighter
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If McDonald does get the job long-term we can start bringing out the 'Old McDonald' jokes.
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Should Langer get D R O P P E D as Australian coach?
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Arachnodouche
International Captain
"My life has been built on values of honesty, respect, trust, truth, and performance and if that comes across as 'too intense' at times, I apologise"
Pity the undermen who are blind to virtue when it stands before them. What a passive-aggressive prick
Pity the undermen who are blind to virtue when it stands before them. What a passive-aggressive prick
the big bambino
International Captain
About "sticking up for mates?" You think so? The bloke has just shivved the coach. Some mate.
GotSpin
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Such a ****wit comment wasn't it - Good to see JL play the victim card so nicely"My life has been built on values of honesty, respect, trust, truth, and performance and if that comes across as 'too intense' at times, I apologise"
Pity the undermen who are blind to virtue when it stands before them. What a passive-aggressive prick
RossTaylorsBox
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Well he was clearly not a ‘mate’
What?
He was referring to his team mates. The coach is not the captain's mate. And Cummins didn't 'shiv' anyone, nor did his team mates. They're supposed to carry on, tell CA everything is hunky dorey even though they believe the coach isn't the best for the job?
Line and Length
Cricketer Of The Year
But you're Cummins number one fan. We shouldn't expect less in your defence of hypocrisy.
the big bambino
International Captain
You see even that is ambiguous. Langer is part of the team right? Besides he didn't identify who his "mates" were. Does it matter though? Mateship isn't the issue. Cummins identified the issue when he decided Langer had to go. Everyone gets evaluated on performance he said. Well lets see: Changed his attitude after talking to the team about their problems, T20 WC - check, Ashes - check. Plus there were other achievements (amongst the failures) including the job of getting past cheatgate and the discovery of Marnus - I mean did you pick that? Evaluation? - performance? Sure ... sure. What an evasive bullshitter he is. Do you feel sorry for him that he couldn't directly say why Langer went? Find a better cause. He put himself in that position so he can at least admit it.
There's a greasy film about our Pat I suspect oozes from a reserve of oiliness beneath. Makes sure all his good deeds are photo ops but sneaky dealings aren't meant for the public. But when they do get out there's silence and evasive blame shifting. It was CA what done it. My word he looks like a politician.
Langer seems to be the one who listened and met the demands and still performed his role successfully. I think the players were surprised and undermined him anyway irrespective about performance and evaluation. Is it fair enough? I don't think so but it's a fact they had the pull to shiv him. But I think I have reason to dislike the duplicity and puke when I see your public blow jobbing of handsome Pat.
RossTaylorsBox
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Wait, do you think Cummins said this stuff without consulting with his team mates beforehand?
RossTaylorsBox
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Oh never mind I get it now
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
I dont understand why everyone has to be so aggressive in their stances here. I dont think Cummins or anyone said JL did not do a good job or something. They all have said he was the guy they needed as a coach at that point. Its just that, having been together for a while now, for this particular team, they feel they need a different voice at the top who is less intense and maybe allows the players to take more ownership. Its a difference between a young side and now what has grown into a somewhat experienced side. Its natural progression, no?
The only real drawback most folks involved have mentioned about JL is that perhaps his coaching style did not evolve as the team grew in experience etc. And that is ok, I feel most coaches and captains at the international level should operate on 4-5 year cycles anyway. Its not a hard and fast rule but it does look like most coaches/captains hit their best by date at that point in today's game.
The only real drawback most folks involved have mentioned about JL is that perhaps his coaching style did not evolve as the team grew in experience etc. And that is ok, I feel most coaches and captains at the international level should operate on 4-5 year cycles anyway. Its not a hard and fast rule but it does look like most coaches/captains hit their best by date at that point in today's game.
RossTaylorsBox
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Player power is basically one step away from full communism.
srbhkshk
International Captain
cumminism.
TheJediBrah
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If you google "communism is" the #1 suggestion is "communism is good". "communism is bad" not an option.
just looked it up then thought it was interesting
just looked it up then thought it was interesting
TheJediBrah
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This is definitely the name of a niche porno
ataraxia
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TheJediBrah
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heh it's the exact same with "socialism is"
but the opposite for "democracy is"
my theory falls apart with "capitalism is" of which both "good" and "bad" are suggestions
Son Of Coco
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I think anyone who has this take on what happened is deliberately misrepresenting things. There's no way Langer was blameless.