Should Langer get D R O P P E D as Australian coach?

[TheJediBrah]

aside from the bowling did it though?

i get you said "on paper", but i don't think an aging an injured dave warner (who though to his credit rebounded in the recent ashes to a degree), matty wade and trav head and marcus harris really have anyone quaking in their boots

obvs smith and marnus and the bowlers

yeah

agree mostly bowling but that attack failed pretty badly a few times over the last few years, attempting to bowl sides out in the 4th innings

 

[Xix2565]

Surely that's not all on Langer right? Did the bowling not have issues as well under Lehmann?

 

[Spark]

aside from the bowling did it though?

i get you said "on paper", but i don't think an aging an injured dave warner (who though to his credit rebounded in the recent ashes to a degree), matty wade and trav head and marcus harris really have anyone quaking in their boots

obvs smith and marnus and the bowlers

yeah

Like TJB said the bowling itself failed quite spectacularly on several occasions

 

[Shady Slim]

yeah but i feel it's far from semantic to say there's a difference between a strong bowling attack on paper and a strong team on paper imho

though i don't disagree the dumb plan to bowl short to tailenders for way longer than they had to against india as an example obvs

 

[karan_fromthestands]

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...nger-quits-as-head-coach-101644054878266.html

LOL, what drama is this? Why is this such a big deal? Why can't Langer be sacked?

 

[karan_fromthestands]

I don't get at all where this has come from. We've been talking **** about Langer for years and I was always under the impression that his status as an overly-emotional man-baby with massive biases re. players and just a **** coach in general was widely accepted.

Now all of a sudden he's being painted as a victim who was treated harshly. Such a quick turn around I'm getting whiplash just thinking about it

That's what I am not getting. Why is he a victim all of a sudden?

 

[karan_fromthestands]

This sums up the attitude of many CW members, especially since that documentary. I readily accept that Langer has faults as a coach but the character assassination coming from so many whose opinions are based on little or no first-hand knowledge should hardly be regarded as a 'widely accepted' view.
As a player, Langer was a gutsy and valued team-member, as is evidenced by comments from his peers, and, although flawed as a coach, his achievements far outweigh his failures.

I don't think his own players were backing him? Were they?

 

[honestbharani]