subshakerz
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Ask Shane Warne or Glen McGrath who they'd rather bowl to. That's all I'm saying.
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Saeed Anwar vs. Virender Sehwag
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G.I.Joe
International Coach
McGrath wouldn't break a sweat being asked to bowl to anybody bar Bradman, but I'm pretty sure Warne wouldn't relish bowling to Sehwag.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Warne ranked Anwar ahead of Sehwag in his list of cricketers. And given that Anwar's record against McGrath is as good as anybody's, I would imagine that he would back Anwar as well.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
On this basis would you rank him ahead of Dravid and Tendulkar? And Anwar wasn't exactly a slouch in scoring rate, his is higher than any major moden Pakistan batsman.
Shri
Mr. Glass
Anwar's SR was in the mid 50s. Just putting it out there.
Shri
Mr. Glass
That might be because he bowled to Anwar more than he bowled to Sehwag?
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Probably higher than any opener of his era, certainly better than Dravid, who is a better batsman than Sehwag. I would like to see Sehwag's strikerate when you take out all the flat pitches he plundered on out of his record.
G.I.Joe
International Coach
Warne also had Hussey ahead of Haynes, and the likes of Taylor, Boon, S.Fleming and Lehmann ahead of Steve Waugh. Make what of it you will. I'd still back Sehwag to do more damage against them. Warne and McGrath aren't here to the best of my knowledge, but its interesting to see who the Aussies on the forum have voted for.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
In the glory days between 95 to 2006/07 no i dont believe think Sehwag would have preferred to Anwar.
I see alot people saying they prefer Sehwag because of his ability to score so quickly he could take the game away from a team in no time. This is true, but fact is that ability to be destructive (as mentioned before by me & subshakerz) in his career so far has come on flat decks, not in bowler friendly conditions.
Again look at his 155 vs AUS, 317 vs SA & 254 vs PAK those where very good pace attacks, but flat decks. In all the others tests of those series when the pitch was in the bowlers favour, Sehwag was owned technically, as i said before it was if the bowlers where bowling to a different batsman.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
I'd be interested to know how much of them actually saw Anwar in the 6 tests vs AUS home & away in the late 90s like i did. Since i really cant see how anyone could see Anwar vs AUS then & put Sehwag over him.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Flat pitches are those which tend to result in high scoring games with both teams ending up with scores of 400+ usually and often lead to draws. I''m not saying that Sehwag hasn't done well on decent wickets but if you analyze his career he has done disproportionately well on flat pitches to a degree Anwar has not.
Take centuries scored, for example. Despite all this talk about Sehwag being a matchwinning batsman, 9 of his 16 centuries have been scored in drawn games, while 3 have been in defeats and 4 in victories. Don't you think that ratio is a bit high?
Compare that to Anwar. Only 1 of his 11 centuries has been in a draw, 8 have been in victories and 2 in defeat. So Anwar has played 16 less tests that Sehwag, yet has twice as many centuries scored in matchwinning efforts. You see what I'm getting at?
Top_Cat
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Saw Anwar in every home and away Test against OZ, still put Sehwag above.
subshakerz
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Just to hammer this point home on how Sehwag perform better when the pitch is easier, let's compare his record with Anwar's overall in drawn matches below.
All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | Cricinfo.com
All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | Cricinfo.com
No surprise from Sehwag here, his average in drawn matches jumps up from 50 to 58. The real surprise is Anwar, his performance actually gets worse in such matches, his average drops from 45 to 35.
Now let's compare them in matches won.
All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | Cricinfo.com
All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | Cricinfo.com
Now the difference between them as cricketers becomes more apparent. Sehwag to his credit improves his average to 53, but thats still below his record in drawn games. Anwar's averages shoots up 20 points in such a scenario, he averages 66 which shows that he performed more when it counted.
Hopefully this shed light on who is the real matchwinner between the two.
All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | Cricinfo.com
All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | Cricinfo.com
No surprise from Sehwag here, his average in drawn matches jumps up from 50 to 58. The real surprise is Anwar, his performance actually gets worse in such matches, his average drops from 45 to 35.
Now let's compare them in matches won.
All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | Cricinfo.com
All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | Cricinfo.com
Now the difference between them as cricketers becomes more apparent. Sehwag to his credit improves his average to 53, but thats still below his record in drawn games. Anwar's averages shoots up 20 points in such a scenario, he averages 66 which shows that he performed more when it counted.
Hopefully this shed light on who is the real matchwinner between the two.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
Can i have some detailed reasons how & why cat?
Shri
Mr. Glass
Thats maybe because there were generally lesser draws in test cricket when Anwar played compared to the current time when there are more draws? And the bowlers who Anwar played along with in his side were infinitely superior than any bowler Sehwag played with.
In another thread I said that Sehwag was without a doubt a FTB. But the thing is, with flat pitches becoming the norm of the day everywhere in the world, he is one hell of a player to have in your side. If Anwar managed to average 5 points higher(45+5) this decade, people would still select Sehwag for his awesome strike rate.
Beaten by Nufan.
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Intangibles. Just reckon Sehwag is more likely to hurt his opposition than Anwar was. Far from an insult to Anwar too.
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subshakerz
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The bowling attack has nothing to do with one's own batting performance. FYI Sehwag has featured in more victorious matches already compared to Anwar, so that's no excuse. It's just that Anwar performed better in these scenarios.
In 26 victorious matches, Sehwag averages 53 with four centuries. In 23 victorious matches, Anwar averages 66 with 8 centuries in a decade with tougher conditions and better bowlers. That's a big difference.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
On a flat pitch he certainy would more than any opener in recent history even Hayden during his IND 2001 to SRI 2004 (cairns & darwin) days. But as i've shown before, that ability of Sehwag to hurt an attack disappears when oppostion quality pace attacks have helpful bowling conditions - that has been the trend of his career.
Anwar rather has scored hundreds againts very good pace attacks in testing conditons. Anwar is miles in front of Sehwag.