Ricky Ponting...

[age_master]

You guys still at it ?

Ganguly is number 1.
Ponting and Vaughan are fighting it out for scraps .

hahaha

 

[luckyeddie]

yeah there may have been another oportunity there, i think ponting wanted to make sure the series was secure, particularly with players liek Jayasuria and Kalu in the oposing side, cant critisise him too much, he was quite possibly only out by 1 or 2 overs.

Not blaming Ponting one iota - just countering some of the nonsense which had appeared a couple of days previously (especially the Roebuck bit) by putting some salient points and offering potentially cogent paradigms, using argument as opposed to gainsaying.

 

[age_master]

nonsense (especially Roebuck )

yeah, that happens quite alot, im not sure how often he writes, maybe once or twice a week for the sydney morning herald but its usually nonsense.

 

[Deja moo]

Yeah , Just 8 months ago , Roebuck was singing praises of Ganguly ( re: the Australian tour) . Now he wants Laxman to captain instead .( He also mentions something about cricketers wearing shorts)

 

[age_master]

well back when he was in under 10's that was the thing to do

 

[Scallywag]

Don't be silly. Show me Perer Roebuck's international credentials and you might have a point.

Why Ricky Ponting is rated so highly as a captain even by the hard-boiled Ian Chappell was evident in the post-match briefing after Sri Lanka had been decimated in the first semi-final.

How many more do you want.

 

[luckyeddie]

Why Ricky Ponting is rated so highly as a captain even by the hard-boiled Ian Chappell was evident in the post-match briefing after Sri Lanka had been decimated in the first semi-final.

How many more do you want.

I cannot for the life of me believe that you wish me to rephrase myself yet again.

There's nothing apparently wrong with Ponting's captaincy - it's just that test cricket is the true testing ground and he has only been skipper for four games in the longer version. Amazingly enough, you seem too stupid to realise that they are two completely different games, and the types of decision (captaincy) made in the two spheres are different too.

In a ODI, you go in with a formula as opposed to a plan - you have your bowling choices almost made for you because of the restrictions placed upon you by the overs, number of fielders within the circle etc. In tests, you have to engineer plans to get rid of players, use strategy and subterfuge as often as not.

You ask me how many examples I want - you keep banging on about how his captaincy has been described by others - yet every reference is about one-day cricket, and the World Cup 2003 in particular.

Has it crossed that very tiny lump of unused grey matter of yours which passes for a brain as to why that is?

Believe it or not, it's because no-one other than yourself seems to think that he has proved himself in the test arena as skipper yet, seeing as how he has only captained the side in FOUR games (and made a right pigs ear of the last one).

 

[Scallywag]

I cannot for the life of me believe that you wish me to rephrase myself yet again.

There's nothing apparently wrong with Ponting's captaincy - it's just that test cricket is the true testing ground and he has only been skipper for four games in the longer version. Amazingly enough, you seem too stupid to realise that they are two completely different games, and the types of decision (captaincy) made in the two spheres are different too.

In a ODI, you go in with a formula as opposed to a plan - you have your bowling choices almost made for you because of the restrictions placed upon you by the overs, number of fielders within the circle etc. In tests, you have to engineer plans to get rid of players, use strategy and subterfuge as often as not.

You ask me how many examples I want - you keep banging on about how his captaincy has been described by others - yet every reference is about one-day cricket, and the World Cup 2003 in particular.

Has it crossed that very tiny lump of unused grey matter of yours which passes for a brain as to why that is?

Believe it or not, it's because no-one other than yourself seems to think that he has proved himself in the test arena as skipper yet, seeing as how he has only captained the side in FOUR games (and made a right pigs ear of the last one).

I can only assume that you allways revert to calling names and abusing people because of your inability to understand what a captain does. But I must admit you do seem to be learning in some areas.

Ponting has captained the Australian one day team 73 times and in that time has proven himself to be an excellent captain and if you think that this is all new to him you dont know shlt about cricket.

Why do you think that all countries have the same captain in tests and odi's, because its the same. It might come as a suprise to you (sometimes you dont know much) but Ponting has played quite a few tests.

 

[marc71178]

the hard-boiled Ian Chappell

What on Earth does this mean? He's been stuck in a saucepan for 5 minutes?

 

[Swervy]

What on Earth does this mean? He's been stuck in a saucepan for 5 minutes?

hehehe...and Lillee,Marsh,massie,etc were his soldiers (just to continue the egg theme)

 

[marc71178]

I wonder how many times they got out for Ducks?

 

[Scallywag]

I wonder how many times they got out for Ducks?

Warnie rounds up a whole flock of ducks when there is an ashes series.

 

[luckyeddie]

I can only assume that you allways revert to calling names and abusing people because of your inability to understand what a captain does. But I must admit you do seem to be learning in some areas.

Ponting has captained the Australian one day team 73 times and in that time has proven himself to be an excellent captain and if you think that this is all new to him you dont know shlt about cricket.

Why do you think that all countries have the same captain in tests and odi's, because its the same. It might come as a suprise to you (sometimes you dont know much) but Ponting has played quite a few tests.

Scallywag, I haven't called you any names at all - if you read my comments you will see that I have been most careful not to do so. I've certainly used metaphor, irony, pathos - oh, god, how I've used pathos until my fingers have bled (that's a joke, incidentally) and an awful lot of ridicule.

Your last point shows you up as worthy of such ridicule yet again, because for a period of almost two years ending earlier this year, Australia had two separate captains - Ponting in ODI's and Waugh in tests. Once more, you have more than adequately demonstrated your inability to construct any form of argument which holds water - or as you Australians say, 'Fosters'.

Please try harder next time - I am far, far too clever and witty for you to be able to handle, and I'm not even trying.

 

[Scallywag]

Scallywag, I haven't called you any names at all - if you read my comments you will see that I have been most careful not to do so. I've certainly used metaphor, irony, pathos - oh, god, how I've used pathos until my fingers have bled (that's a joke, incidentally) and an awful lot of ridicule.

Your last point shows you up as worthy of such ridicule yet again, because for a period of almost two years ending earlier this year, Australia had two separate captains - Ponting in ODI's and Waugh in tests. Once more, you have more than adequately demonstrated your inability to construct any form of argument which holds water - or as you Australians say, 'Fosters'.

Please try harder next time - I am far, far too clever and witty for you to be able to handle, and I'm not even trying.

You really think so, I've been trolling you for two days and you just seem to keep biting, nobody has ever been so stupid. Except possibly for marc.

 

[Eclipse]

There's nothing apparently wrong with Ponting's captaincy - it's just that test cricket is the true testing ground and he has only been skipper for four games in the longer version. Amazingly enough, you seem too stupid to realise that they are two completely different games, and the types of decision (captaincy) made in the two spheres are different too.

I am not going to disagree with this because I have my own opinion but I remember S.Waugh saying about 4 years ago that captaining the ODI side was sometimes more of a challange than test cricket.

I have never captained a test so I cant say myself but I would have though test cricket would be harder because your concerntration levels would have to last so much longer.

 

[lord_of_darkness]

Perer Roebuck's

Hes the sports writer for NZ herald god i hate that guy..

 

[Nate]

You really think so, I've been trolling you for two days and you just seem to keep biting, nobody has ever been so stupid. Except possibly for marc.

dude, your getting your butt kicked. stop please... captaining four tests does not give you a chance of being the best test captain in the world, period. ponting has done nothing wrong in the shorter form of the game, but that is all. i am an aussie myself, yet i strongly agree with (most of) the pommies points for the simple fact that they are right. they are showing their age, maturity and wisdom and you are doing none.

 

[luckyeddie]

You really think so, I've been trolling you for two days and you just seem to keep biting, nobody has ever been so stupid. Except possibly for marc.

No, you have just been yourself - an annoying know-nothing whose lack of anything relevant to say has been more than adequately compensated for by the frequency and veracity with which you said it.

To claim now that you are trolling is akin to the person who tries for the simple red, miscues and sees the ball going in off three cushions, taking two others with it. This is invariably followed by the call "trick shot" and doesn't fool anyone.

A classic application of the old saying "Empty vessels make most noise".

 

[Scallywag]

No, you have just been yourself - an annoying know-nothing whose lack of anything relevant to say has been more than adequately compensated for by the frequency and veracity with which you said it.

To claim now that you are trolling is akin to the person who tries for the simple red, miscues and sees the ball going in off three cushions, taking two others with it. This is invariably followed by the call "trick shot" and doesn't fool anyone.

A classic application of the old saying "Empty vessels make most noise".

I'll take that as a compliment from you LE.
Call me all you like but Vaughan still cant bat, still cant captain a team and Ponting is so much better than him.
Vaughan is just riding on Flintoffs back just kike Brearley rode on Bothams back. (you gotta laugh batsmen who cant bat)

The Aussies will belt the english every which way and it will be Ponting leading the charge while Vaughan struggles to fend off Gillespie.
I agree vaughan is the best captain in england but like I said he would not be good enough to get a state game in Australia.

And beating West Indies is just a tad higher than Bangladesh.Congratulations.

 

[Jnr.]

he would not be good enough to get a state game in Australia.

So he can score Test centuries against the best bowling attack in the world (Australia), be Man of the Series in the Ashes and still not be good enough to get a state game in Australia?

Why, because he is not Australian?