Ricky Ponting...

[luckyeddie]

haha id be interested to see how many people followed that le

I can name you one who won't

 

[Scallywag]

Quoting 2 extremely biased journalists from Australia will do nothing to say anything about Ponting's abilities - until the Aussie team loses all it's stars, there is not enough of a challenge to him to judge him against someone who has no real stars in his team, yet still has them up competing with the best.

Off course two extremely biased English supporters would know more about Pontings abilities as a captain.

Its really rattled you having someone tell you that you are wrong.

 

[Jnr.]

Off course two extremely biased English supporters would know more about Pontings abilities as a captain.

Its really rattled you having someone tell you that you are wrong.

Yet you can't accept the fact that Vaughan is a good captain?

 

[luckyeddie]

Off course two extremely biased English supporters would know more about Pontings abilities as a captain.

Its really rattled you having someone tell you that you are wrong.

Can you not talk about anything else, you one-trick pony?

The only thing that rattles me is how you manage to spare the cranial capacity to be able to type and breathe at the same time.

I will spell it out for you in four words of one syllable and one of two (is that too much, even for you?)

four games is not enough.

 

[Deja moo]

Nonsense.

Everyone knows Ganguly is the best captain .

 

[Richard]

I had no idea my banner would spark such a heated debate...

If you were to look back through 20 or so pages you'll see rather a few more seemingly innocent titles that have boiled over into bloodshed.
Honestly, what a ridiculous slanging match.

 

[Scallywag]

Can you not talk about anything else, you one-trick pony?

The only thing that rattles me is how you manage to spare the cranial capacity to be able to type and breathe at the same time.

I will spell it out for you in four words of one syllable and one of two (is that too much, even for you?)

four games is not enough.

Lucky eddie I do detect you are becoming a little unstable.

Captaining 73 matches gives you plenty of experience even more than what Vaughan has, get it. Taking you team through the world cup undefeated is something that is called experience.

 

[luckyeddie]

Lucky eddie I do detect you are becoming a little unstable.

Captaining 73 matches gives you plenty of experience even more than what Vaughan has, get it. Taking you team through the world cup undefeated is something that is called experience.

I have been consistently talking about test cricket - I have no doubt at all that Ponting has been able to handle his one-day side very well indeed.

 

[Scallywag]

I have been consistently talking about test cricket - I have no doubt at all that Ponting has been able to handle his one-day side very well indeed.

Good you are learning, now all you have to do is realise that he captains the same side in tests and does the same very good job there as he does in the test side and we will be in total agreeance.

 

[luckyeddie]

Good you are learning, now all you have to do is realise that he captains the same side in tests and does the same very good job there as he does in the test side and we will be in total agreeance.

If that's the case, why does his side have to carry him in test matches? A relatively pathetic average of 33 (that's 4 less than your Nemesis) seems to indicate that the Australian selectors might be considering looking for someone a little more reliable to bat at 3 and skipper the side before too long.

 

[Scallywag]

If that's the case, why does his side have to carry him in test matches? A relatively pathetic average of 33 (that's 4 less than your Nemesis) seems to indicate that the Australian selectors might be considering looking for someone a little more reliable to bat at 3 and skipper the side before too long.

A relatively pathetic average is around 22 (Brearley tests) or around 24 (Vaughan ODI's) so that is quite high.

And just to show you how professional the Australians are they would have a plan if Ponting should start to fail. Ponting has no right to captain and will lose it if his performance does drop.

 

[marc71178]

Good you are learning, now all you have to do is realise that he captains the same side in tests

I assume by same side you mean because both are called Australia?

 

[Scallywag]

I assume by same side you mean because both are called Australia?

By jove I think you are starting to get it marc.

It took a while and had to be bashed in but its starting to work.

Now all you need to do is watch a game with Australia playing.

 

[Scallywag]

Yet you can't accept the fact that Vaughan is a good captain?

What facts are they Jnr.

 

[marc71178]

Now all you need to do is watch a game with Australia playing.

Even though the 2 elevens have significant differences, thus aren't the same side?

 

[Scallywag]

Even though the 2 elevens have significant differences, thus aren't the same side?

What weaknesses have you found in Pontings captaincy at test level marc.

 

[luckyeddie]

I thought that his general approach in the Cairns test against Sri Lanka was particularly spineless and unadventurous, especially

a) his batting in the second innings
b) the lateness of the declaration
c) his reluctance to use Lehmann, a man who had taken 6 wickets against Sri Lanka just a few weeks earlier.

 

[Scallywag]

a) his batting in the second innings

Ahaaa so the batting capabilities of a captain do reflect in his abilities as a captain.

Thank you so much LE

 

[luckyeddie]

Ahaaa so the batting capabilities of a captain do reflect in his abilities as a captain.

Thank you so much LE

Looks like he can't justify his place in the side in either role, then. A good job Gilchrist captained Australia in the first test, I suppose. If Ponting had been in charge for that one, the series might well have gone down the drain.

And it was nothing to do with how poorly he batted - just his general reluctance to get on with it. He would have taken the draw if offered - most un-Waugh like

 

[age_master]

I thought that his general approach in the Cairns test against Sri Lanka was particularly spineless and unadventurous, especially

a) his batting in the second innings
b) the lateness of the declaration
c) his reluctance to use Lehmann, a man who had taken 6 wickets against Sri Lanka just a few weeks earlier.

a) whats wrong with it??

b) he didn't have that many runs to play with, a draw would have won the series, a loss would have drawn it

c) Sri Lanka wern't batting that agressivley and could have fairly easiily just played Boof out. Kaspa only bowled 11 overs in the 2nd innings and hes much more a front line bowler than Lehmann.