Ricky Ponting...

[luckyeddie]

Once again, Ponting was rescued from ineptitude by a superb side.

His field placings sucked, his use of his bowlers sucked after the first 25 overs, his control on events sucked and his dismissal made Devon Malcolm look good.

Top performance, Ricky. Scallywag is proud of you.

 

[luckyeddie]

But I think Sri Lanka might be where you stop watching this time.

Not me.

Unlike you, I do not wear blinkers when I watch a cricket tournament. If Australia win, so be it (although I was rooting for NZ today, that was purely and simply to get up your nose). Similarly, if Sri Lanka defeat England tomorrow, you won't see me bemoaning the fact.

Have a nice day.

 

[marc71178]

So thats five games in a row that Ponting has beaten the second best ODI team.

No, it's 5 games in a row that Australia has beaten NZ - in that time, Ricky has scored the total of 100 runs at an average of 20.

I think it takes more than 20 runs to beat NZ.

 

[Scallywag]

No, it's 5 games in a row that Australia has beaten NZ - in that time, Ricky has scored the total of 100 runs at an average of 20.

I think it takes more than 20 runs to beat NZ.

Ponting has gone head to head with Fleming 6 times and he has gone head to head with Vaughan 6 times and you know what, PONTING HAS NOT LOST ONE GAME TO BOTH OF THESE CAPTAINS.

Do you get that marc, he has never lost a match to both of these captains. 12 times they have tried and twelve times they have failed.

Thats twelve games (thats more than all your fingers) and both of these captains have been UNABLE TO WIN.

 

[Swervy]

Ponting has gone head to head with Fleming 6 times and he has gone head to head with Vaughan 6 times and you know what, PONTING HAS NOT LOST ONE GAME TO BOTH OF THESE CAPTAINS.

Do you get that marc, he has never lost a match to both of these captains. 12 times they have tried and twelve times they have failed.

Thats twelve games (thats more than all your fingers) and both of these captains have been UNABLE TO WIN.

Team talent nothing to do with that then i guess??

 

[Andre]

So thats five games in a row that Ponting has beaten the second best ODI team.
India used to be but Ponting smashed them out of contention.

superkingdave did you know that Ponting has not been beaten in a final series in the last Eight finals. You probably dont watch finals games but you should because thats where Australia play best.

But I think Sri Lanka might be where you stop watching this time.

First things first - it's 7 straight wins against New Zealand.

 

[Andre]

Ponting has gone head to head with Fleming 6 times and he has gone head to head with Vaughan 6 times and you know what, PONTING HAS NOT LOST ONE GAME TO BOTH OF THESE CAPTAINS.

Do you get that marc, he has never lost a match to both of these captains. 12 times they have tried and twelve times they have failed.

Thats twelve games (thats more than all your fingers) and both of these captains have been UNABLE TO WIN.

Ponting has never gone head-to-head with Vaughan as captain.

 

[marc71178]

Ponting has gone head to head with Fleming 6 times and he has gone head to head with Vaughan 6 times and you know what, PONTING HAS NOT LOST ONE GAME TO BOTH OF THESE CAPTAINS.

No, Australia have played NZ and England and beaten them.

 

[Scallywag]

So when was the last time Vaughan or Fleming beat Australia in a ODI?.

 

[Nate]

So when was the last time Vaughan or Fleming beat Australia in a ODI?.

fleming recently actually... 3 or 4 times.

 

[Scallywag]

fleming recently actually... 3 or 4 times.

How recent is that, 26th Jan 2002, the last time Waugh captained Auet against NZ.

Ponting has led Australia to the next 6wins and that makes Fleming a better captain.. hahahahahahahahahahahahahha

Ponting has defeated England 6 times from six games and England change captains and say our captains better..hahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[Eclipse]

Ponting tougher than Waugh
By Michael Crutcher
September 17, 2004

NEW ZEALAND captain Stephen Fleming believes Ricky Ponting is already a more formidable leader than Steve Waugh as Australia reach the peak of their cricketing powers.

Fleming, regarded as one of the game's best tacticians, said Ponting had stamped his mark on the one-day captaincy after following Waugh and Mark Taylor into the position in early 2002.

"He's a very positive guy and he's learnt from Steve and he's combined that with his aggressive nature," Fleming said before last night's Champions Trophy clash at The Oval.

"He's maybe a bigger handful [than Waugh] because the team around him has developed into an even stronger side than Steve Waugh had. He's very tough.

"The differences probably are behind the scenes. They're working on a number of ways to get better and Ricky has got the seat at the moment. It's a pretty good job."

Fleming had the better of his final battles with Waugh, winning three consecutive matches in the series that led to Waugh's sacking as Australian one-day captain.

But the Black Caps have slipped nothing past Ponting, losing all five matches against his teams leading into the sudden-death clash at The Oval. The victories have added to Ponting's outstanding record of 59 wins from 71 completed one-day matches - a better strike-rate than any permanent captain.

Some of the results have hurt New Zealand, including a crucial World Cup showdown early last year when Australia wriggled away from 7-84 to win by 96 runs.

"You can get them on the ropes and they can keep on scrambling out," Fleming said.

"But there are key players coming to the end of their careers, the McGraths and Warnes.

"Michael Bevan's axing astounded a lot of us. It was a massive shock. We look at our depth of talent and Australia is throwing out a guy who averages 50 in the middle.

"It's pretty ruthless and I'm not sure how much influence Ricky has on that or whether it comes down solely to the selectors."

England meet Sri Lanka at the Rose Bowl tonight, with the winner progressing to Tuesday's semi-final between Australia or New Zealand in Edgbaston.

South Africa and the West Indies play tomorrow for a semi-final berth against either India or Pakistan. The fierce subcontinental rivals play off before a sellout crowd at Edgbaston on Sunday.

The Courier-Mail

 

[age_master]

"Michael Bevan's axing astounded a lot of us. It was a massive shock. We look at our depth of talent and Australia is throwing out a guy who averages 50 in the middle.

he was well past his best, but still a fair comment

 

[tooextracool]

he was well past his best, but still a fair comment

if you came to that conclusion after 4 bad innings, in none of which he managed a single digit score then well done.

 

[marc71178]

It appears Scallywag still doesn't grasp the concept of team, seeing as apparently it's been Ponting beating these sides on his own.

 

[Scallywag]

It appears Scallywag still doesn't grasp the concept of team, seeing as apparently it's been Ponting beating these sides on his own.

That would be understandable considering how good a batsman Ponting is (did you watch the WC final marc) but what is beyond my grasp is your belief that Vaughan's captaincy is the reason England have managed to beat West Indies. And for the final laugh you think he's a better captain than Ponting.

 

[Linda]

Scallywag, I admire your belief in Ponting, the Australian cricket team captaincy is a tough job.
However, I think you need to stop and realise that Ponting's leadership is NOT the be all and end all of the team. There are 10 other guys out there who are supremely talented; I would think its fair to say Ponting would have no where near the same record he does with a different set of cricketers.

 

[Scallywag]

Scallywag, I admire your belief in Ponting, the Australian cricket team captaincy is a tough job.
However, I think you need to stop and realise that Ponting's leadership is NOT the be all and end all of the team. There are 10 other guys out there who are supremely talented;

Thank you Linda, I have allways understood that Ponting is part of a team .
The disagreement is that I dont believe that Vaughan and Fleming are better captains than Ponting. As you say "the Australian cricket team captaincy is a tough job." but some say that anybody could do it and it would not alter the team. Once again I disagree because of the importance of Ponting batting at #3.

I would think its fair to say Ponting would have no where near the same record he does with a different set of cricketers.

And it would be fair to say Vaughan could not lead the Australian side with the same confidence and class as Ponting.

 

[Linda]

.. some say that anybody could do it and it would not alter the team.

I dont think the ones your fighting against here are saying that.

And it would be fair to say Vaughan could not lead the Australian side with the same confidence and class as Ponting.

No, he probably couldnt. But Fleming could.

 

[Nate]

How recent is that, 26th Jan 2002, the last time Waugh captained Auet against NZ.

Ponting has led Australia to the next 6wins and that makes Fleming a better captain.. hahahahahahahahahahahahahha

Ponting has defeated England 6 times from six games and England change captains and say our captains better..hahahahahahahahahahahaha

dude. your name is scallywag. you cant laugh at anyone.