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Playing selector: Lets pick the best test XI of different eras

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
I don't think you can put both players in to be honest - some people may wish for a different team shape.
 

PhoenixFire

International Coach
If you were going to have an attack of 2 opening bowlers, 1 spinner and 1 allrounder, presumably a quick bowler, then I'd be leaning more towards Murali, due to his marginally lower Economy rate, and his ability to totally dry up the runs at one end.
 

aussie tragic

International Captain
Murali vs Warne....when will we ever learn :)

How about selecting # 5, # 6 and two Opening bowlers, followed by the selection of two final bowlers from:

(a) 2 Runner-up allrounders
(b) 2 Spinners (Warne & Murali)
(c) 2 Runner up Pacers

Comments?
 

aussie tragic

International Captain
silentstriker said:
IMO get rid of the all rounder. I don't think there is a place for an all rounder in an all time team.
Yeah but CW can do that by voting in a batsman at # 6 as the # 5 runner-ups will go into the # 6 poll as usual.

However, I don't think that will happen with the likes of Sobers, Imran, Miller & Botham to choose from ;)
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
aussie tragic said:
Yeah but CW can do that by voting in a batsman at # 6 as the # 5 runner-ups will go into the # 6 poll as usual.

However, I don't think that will happen with the likes of Sobers, Imran, Miller & Botham to choose from ;)
Yea, well Sobers should go in at #5 or #6 as a pure batsman. The others ought to miss out IMO.
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
aussie tragic said:
Yeah but CW can do that by voting in a batsman at # 6 as the # 5 runner-ups will go into the # 6 poll as usual.

However, I don't think that will happen with the likes of Sobers, Imran, Miller & Botham to choose from ;)
Exactly. When you have all-rounders like those, there is no harm in picking one for the all-time team. Their inclusion can be well justified. Considering that we'll probably have both Warne and Murali in the final team, I think the all-rounders become even more important.
 

aussie tragic

International Captain
Yeah but I don't think having Warne, Murali & Sobers in one team is a good idea given that it only allows 2 pacers from the following: Marshall, Ambrose, Lillee, McGrath, Davidson, Lindwall, Miller, Hadlee, Imran & Trueman.

So I think the allrounder is pivotal to this team as Miller, Imran or Botham will allow Murali & Warne to play, whereas if Sobers plays at # 6, I'd rather have only 1 spinner.
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
aussie tragic said:
Yeah but I don't think having Warne, Murali & Sobers in one team is a good idea given that it only allows 2 pacers from the following: Marshall, Ambrose, Lillee, McGrath, Davidson, Lindwall, Miller, Hadlee, Imran & Trueman.

So I think the allrounder is pivotal to this team as Miller, Imran or Botham will allow Murali & Warne to play, whereas if Sobers plays at # 6, I'd rather have only 1 spinner.

Yeah, what he said.
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
silentstriker said:
Right, thats why both of them shouldn't play. :laugh:
You mean Murali and Warne? Well it's almost a given that both will make the team (I would personally go with only one spinner. Either will do just fine for me). So considering the reality that both will make the team, I don't think excluding an all-rounder is a good idea.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Fusion said:
You mean Murali and Warne? Well it's almost a given that both will make the team (I would personally go with only one spinner. Either will do just fine for me). So considering the reality that both will make the team, I don't think excluding an all-rounder is a good idea.
Yea, I agree with you there. Maybe we should make one spinner mandatory and let the CW community choose between. After all, we obviously know better and only one spinner should make it. :ph34r:
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
silentstriker said:
Yea, I agree with you there. Maybe we should make one spinner mandatory and let the CW community choose between. After all, we obviously know better and only one spinner should make it. :ph34r:
Well we could pull that off if either of us became CW Dictators. Considering that you want babies to die because of cancer, I think I should assume that office. So first order of business would be to pick only one spinner. Second would to make sure that McGrath doesn't get in over Hadlee or Lillee. If I'm going to be controversial, then why not piss you off too? :cool:

Edit: Mistakenly typed in Lee instead of Lillee above.
 
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silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Fusion said:
Well we could pull that off if either of us became CW Dictators. Considering that you want babies to die because of cancer, I think I should assume that office. So first order of business would be to pick only one spinner. Second would to make sure that McGrath doesn't get in over Hadlee or Lee. If I'm going to be controversial, then why not piss you off too? :cool:
Because I have a semi automatic rifle and hollow point Black Talon bullets.
 

adharcric

International Coach
aussie tragic said:
Yeah but I don't think having Warne, Murali & Sobers in one team is a good idea given that it only allows 2 pacers from the following: Marshall, Ambrose, Lillee, McGrath, Davidson, Lindwall, Miller, Hadlee, Imran & Trueman.

So I think the allrounder is pivotal to this team as Miller, Imran or Botham will allow Murali & Warne to play, whereas if Sobers plays at # 6, I'd rather have only 1 spinner.
Why does it only allow 2 pacers? Imran should make it at 6 IMO with Sobers at 5.
That gives you 3 specialist pace bowling options, 2 specialist spin bowling options and a less-than-specialist option in Sobers who can make it as a batsman alone.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
I say have both in the team, the only think fast bowlers are good for is to take the shine of the new ball. We all know Murali and Warne will ball all day long. I still go for having one of them taking the last bowling postion. IMO Sobers was a better seam bowler then spinner anyway, so you will still have a 3rd seamer is Sobers makes the side. But i'll be voting for him at No 5 and Miller at 6 anyway. I don't like the idea at all they have to flight with the runner up seamers and all rounders for the last spot in the sides, they didn't loss their vote.
 
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oz_fan

International Regular
aussie tragic said:
Murali vs Warne....when will we ever learn :)

How about selecting # 5, # 6 and two Opening bowlers, followed by the selection of two final bowlers from:

(a) 2 Runner-up allrounders
(b) 2 Spinners (Warne & Murali)
(c) 2 Runner up Pacers

Comments?
Yeah definately the way to do it. More than likely both Murali and Warne will get in but at least this will give people a few different options.
 

aussie tragic

International Captain
With all the speculation about whether Warne and Murali should both play, I think it may ruin the # 6 vote, so I'm thinking of running a tie-breaker for best spinner after all.

I'll also say upfront that if yet again it's a tie, the spinners will go into the "two final Bowler" concept already proposed.

Need two others to say go ahead and it shall be done ;)
 

adharcric

International Coach
aussie tragic said:
With all the speculation about whether Warne and Murali should both play, I think it may ruin the # 6 vote, so I'm thinking of running a tie-breaker for best spinner after all.

I'll also say upfront that if yet again it's a tie, the spinners will go into the "two final Bowler" concept already proposed.

Need two others to say go ahead and it shall be done ;)
Pretty obvious that CW stands divided on the Murali vs. Warne question, so why bother? In the end, it will be decided by some troll or new member who happens to support either Murali or Warne. Just put them both in the "two final bowlers" thing IMO. If you want a heads up for the tie-breaker though, go ahead. :)
 

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