Playing selector: Lets pick the best test XI of different eras

[The Sean]

I was saying a maximum of one or two. Not one or two as a matter of course every series.

Oh, gotcha.

 

[The Sean]

Yes, he did. He was destructive - but so is everyone else in that line up.

Fair enough tiger - each to his own. My personal choice if I needed one of them to destroy an attack would always be Bradman.

 

[aussie tragic]

What is the likley batting lineup for the 1946-2006 team, Aussie?

1. Matthew Hayden ---------- Sunil Gavaskar ----------- Len Hutton
2. Saeed Anwar --------------- Gordon Greenidge ---------- Arthur Morris
3. Ricky Ponting --------------- Viv Richards -------------- Clyde Walcott
4. Sachin Tendulkar ---------- Greg Chappell ----------- Everton Weekes
5. Brian Lara -------------------- Gary Sobers -------------- Frank Worrell
6. Imran Khan ------------------ Ian Botham ---------------- Keith Miller
7. Adam Gilchrist -------------- Alan Knott ---------------- John Waite

 

[The Sean]

1. Matthew Hayden ---------- Sunil Gavaskar ----------- Len Hutton
2. Saeed Anwar --------------- Gordon Greenidge ------------Arthur Morris
3. Ricky Ponting --------------- Viv Richards -------------- Clyde Walcott
4. Sachin Tendulkar ---------- Greg Chappell ----------- Everton Weekes
5. Brian Lara -------------------- Gary Sobers -------------- Frank Worrell
6. Imran Khan ------------------ Ian Botham ---------------- Keith Miller
7. Adam Gilchrist -------------- Alan Knott ---------------- John Waite

Backing ChappellG over Tendulkar? Controversial.

 

[aussie tragic]

Backing ChappellG over Tendulkar? Controversial.

...but true, if you disregard that he was a toss to order the underarm

 

[silentstriker]

...but true

Actually, completely wrong. I'd be interested to know why? Personally, having BCL and not Tendy would be like the biggest WTF moment ever. I'm going to pick both of course.

 

[silentstriker]

As a complete side note, because everyone seems to rate that craptastic bowler Lillee higher than I do, I got my hands on about 40 hours of Lillee footage.

His good games, and his crappy games. I'll go through it tonight, tomorrow and saturday. I'll post my final verdict on Sunday. In the highly unlikely event that I am wrong, you'll be able to rejoice as finally your opinion will agree with mine and thus you won't look like fools.

 

[PhoenixFire]

Would you ever rate him higher than McGrath, in any circumstances?

 

[silentstriker]

Would you ever rate him higher than McGrath, in any circumstances?

Sure, why not? GM-OLAS notwithstanding, there is no reason why, if he was truly better, that I wouldn't rate him higher. DL-OLAS coming up? Doubtful, but you never know.

 

[PhoenixFire]

Sure, why not? GM-OLAS notwithstanding, there is no reason why, if he was truly better, that I wouldn't rate him higher. DL-OLAS coming up? Doubtful, but you never know.

 

[silentstriker]

After McGrath it would likely be MM-OLAS though . But like I said, I really am going to go in with an open mind and rewatch all that Lillee footage and I'll decide myself.

 

[bagapath]

Bradman scored 300 in a day for christs sake, what more do you want????

World's Fastest Test Batsmen

Qualification: 1000 runs or 2000 balls faced in Tests, average over 20. Data to 9 May 2006.


Career
Career Runs
Career Average
Runs/ 100 balls

1. Shahid Afridi (Pak)
1998-
1,634
38.9
86.0

2. A.C. Gilchrist (Aus)
1999-
5,124
48.8
81.6

3. N. Kapil Dev (Ind)
1978-1994
5,248
31.1
81.0

4. M.W. Tate (Eng)
1924-1935
1,198
25.5
75-76

5. V. Sehwag (Ind)
2001-
3,709
52.2
74.9

6. J.H. Sinclair (SA)
1896-1911
1,069
23.2
73-74

7. I.V.A. Richards (WI)
1974-1991
8,542
50.0
68.9

8. V.T. Trumper (Aus)
1899-1912
3,163
39.0
67-68

9. A. Flintoff (Eng)
1998-
3,080
33.5
65.2

10. S.T. Jayasuriya (Sri)
1991-
6,613
41.6
64.9

11. K. Srikkanth (Ind)
1981-1992
2,062
29.9
64.4

12. S.M. Patil (Ind)
1980-1984
1,588
36.9
63-64

13. Kamran Akmal (Pak)
2002-
1,152
31.1
63.0

14. B.B. McCullum (NZ)
2004-
1,083
32.8
62.6

15. D.S. Lehmann (Aus)
1998-
1,798
45.0
61.8

16. D.G. Bradman (Aus)
1928-1948
6,996
99.9
60-61

17. J.M. Gregory (Aus)
1920-1928
1,146
37.0
60-61

18. S.J. McCabe (Aus)
1930-1938
2,748
48.2
60-61

19. I.T. Botham (Eng)
1977-1992
5,200
33.5
60.7

20. B.C. Lara (WI)
1990-
11,294
53.0
60.6

21. Habibul Bashar (Ban)
2000-
2,838
34.6
60.4

22. R.S. Kaluwitharana (Sri)
1992-
1,933
26.1
60.4

23. F.E. Woolley (Eng)
1909-1934
3,283
36.1
60-61

24. M.L. Hayden (Aus)
1994-
7,326
53.1
60.1

25. G.C. Smith (SA)
2002-
3,891
49.3
59.8

26. C.H. Lloyd (WI)
1966-1985
7,537
46.5
59-60

27. L. Klusener (SA)
1996-
1,906
32.9
59.7

28. EdeC Weekes (WI)
1948-1958
4,455
58.6
59-60

29. A.L. Logie (WI)
1983-1991
2,470
35.8
58.9

30. R.T. Ponting (Aus)
1995-
8,792
58.2
58.8

31. Yasir Hameed (Pak)
2003-
1,168
38.9
58.8

32. F.M. Engineer (Ind)
1961-1975
2,611
31.1
58-59

33. V.G. Kambli (Ind)
1993-1995
1,084
54.2
58.7

34. C.G. Macartney (Aus)
1907-1926
2,131
41.8
58-59

35. C. Hill (Aus)
1896-1912
3,412
39.2
58-59

36. L.R.D. Mendis (Sri)
1982-1988
1,329
31.6
58-59

37. R.A. Duff (Aus)
1902-1905
1,317
35.6
58-59

38. R.J. Hadlee (NZ)
1973-1990
3,124
27.2
57.6

39. R.A. McLean (SA)
1951-1964
2,120
30.3
57-58

40. R.L. Dias (Sri)
1982-1987
1,285
36.7
57-58

41. M. Azharuddin (Ind)
1984-2000
6,215
45.0
57.4

42. D.W. Hookes (Aus)
1977-1985
1,306
34.4
57.3

43. C.L. Cairns (NZ)
1989-
3,319
33.5
57.1

44. R.G. Pollock (SA)
1963-1970
2,256
61.0
56-57

45. T.M. Dilshan (Sri)
1999-
1,797
38.2
56.4

46. G.O. Jones (Eng)
2004-
1,027
27.8
56.4

47. B. Lee (Aus)
1999-
1,033
21.1
56.4

48. Saeed Anwar (Pak)
1990-2001
4,052
45.5
55.8

49. Aamir Sohail (Pak)
1992-2000
2,823
35.3
55.7

50. C.H. Gayle (WI)
2000-
3,804
39.2
55.7

51. Zaheer Abbas (Pak)
1969-1985
5,062
44.8
55-56

52. M.E. Trescothick (Eng)
2000-
5,497
45.4
55.1

53. D.T. Lindsay (SA)
1963-1970
1,130
37.7
54-55

54. C.D. McMillan (NZ)
1997-
3,116
38.5
54.9

55. Asif Iqbal (Pak)
1964-1980
3,575
38.9
54-55

56. D.L. Vettori (NZ)
1997-
2,136
24.8
54.5

57. M.J. Clarke (Aus)
2004-
1,123
36.2
54.5

58. J. Darling (Aus)
1894-1905
1,657
28.6
54-55

59. Inzamam-ul-Haq (Pak)
1992-
8,266
51.3
54.3

60. K.C. Sangakkara (Sri)
2000-
4,225
47.5
54.1

61. S.R. Tendulkar (Ind)
1989-
10,458
55.4
53.8

62. J.L. Langer (Aus)
1993-
7,393
45.4
53.7

63. M.E.K. Hussey (Aus)
2000-
1,139
75.9
53.6

64. C.L. Walcott (WI)
1948-1960
3,798
56.7
53-54

65. Younis Khan (Pak)
2000-
3,555
48.0
53.3

66. S.M. Nurse (WI)
1960-1969
2,523
47.6
53-54

67. T.G. Evans (Eng)
1946-1959
2,439
20.5
53-54

68. M.J. Slater (Aus)
1993-2001
5,312
42.8
53.0

69. GStA Sobers (WI)
1954-1974
8,032
57.8
52-53

70. W. Bardsley (Aus)
1909-1926
2,469
40.5
52.5

71. Imran Farhat (Pak)
2001-
1,111
32.7
52.5

72. Wasim Akram (Pak)
1985-2002
2,847
23.5
52.4

73. M.P. Vaughan (Eng)
1999-
4,595
42.9
52.4

74. M.E. Waugh (Aus)
1991-2002
8,029
41.8
52.3

75. Wasim Raja (Pak)
1973-1985
2,821
36.2
52-53

76. A.B. de Villiers (SA)
1998-
1,390
39.7
52.2

77. S.B. Styris (NZ)
2002-
1,527
38.2
51.8

78. R.R. Lindwall (Aus)
1946-1960
1,502
21.2
51-52

79. K.C. Wessels (Aus)
1982-1994
2,788
41.0
51.8

80. G.S. Chappell (Aus)
1970-1984
7,110
53.9
51-52

81. DPMD Jayawardene (Sri)
1997-
5,513
47.1
51.7

82. S.M. Pollock (SA)
1995-
3,444
31.6
51.6

83. G.A. Faulkner (SA)
1906-1924
1,754
39.9
51-52

84. K.R. Stackpole (Aus)
1966-1974
2,807
37.4
51-52

85. D.R. Martyn (Aus)
1992-
4,361
47.4
51.5

86. A.J. Lamb (Eng)
1982-1992
4,656
36.1
51.4

87. J.B. Hobbs (Eng)
1908-1930
5,410
56.9
51-52

88. S. Abid Ali (Ind)
1967-1974
1,018
20.4
51-52

89. P.V. Simmons (WI)
1988-1997
1,002
22.3
51.3

90. J.D.P. Oram (NZ)
2002-
1,203
43.0
51.2

91. Moin Khan (Pak)
1990-
2,741
28.6
51.1

92. V.S. Ransford (Aus)
1907-1912
1,211
37.8
51-52

93. F.S. Jackson (Eng)
1893-1905
1,415
48.8
50-51

94. D.I. Gower (Eng)
1978-1992
8,231
44.3
50.7

95. K.D. Walters (Aus)
1965-1981
5,357
48.3
50-51

96. P.A. de Silva (Sri)
1984-2002
5,850
46.6
50.5

97. A.J. Strauss (Eng)
2004-
1,997
45.4
50.5

98. H.H. Gibbs (SA)
1996-
5,599
44.8
50.3

99. C.L. Hooper (WI)
1987-2002
5,762
36.5
50.3

100. C.J. Barnett (Eng)
1933-1948
1,098
35.4
50-51


GL Jessop (Eng 1899-1912) scored at 112 r/100b, but scored only 569 runs in Tests.

 

[aussie tragic]

Is that the longest post in CW history?

Tip, why don't you edit the post to put the player & their stats on one line

 

[silentstriker]

Yea, I mean no one is arguing that Bradman wasn't the best, but that doesn't mean he would come out ahead in every possible criteria imaginable (though he does in most anyway).

 

[The Sean]

Yea, I mean no one is arguing that Bradman wasn't the best, but that doesn't mean he would come out ahead in every possible criteria imaginable (though he does in most anyway).

Fair enough mate - I knew Braddles' S/R wouldn't be the highest, I reckon I'd just still always go for him to cause all round fast-scoring destruction if I had the choice of anyone.

Fascinating list though - I never would have thought Langer would have a Test S/R higher than Walcott, Sobers, Slater, Stackpole and many other noted "dashers".

 

[aussie tragic]

Just to do something a little different this time, I though I'd keep track of who has the most correct votes on the team selections.

Results so far:

Openers: 22 people have so far selected Gavasker & Hutton

# 3: 20 people have so far selected Gavaskar, Hutton & Richards

WK: the following 10 people have so far selected Gavaskar, Hutton, Richards & Gilchrist:

1. Adharcic
2. Aussie Tragic
3. Bagapath
4. Blinkatesh
5. Fusion
6. Jamee 999
7. Matt 79
8. Oz Fan
9. Samuel Vimes
10. Perm

Btw, the following 6 can be added if they vote Gilchrist:

11. Anil
12. Chaminda 00
13. Marc7178
14. Shankar
15. Slifer
16. The Sean

Or any new person can be added if they post all 4 players as all Polls are still open

 

[silentstriker]

Interesting. Just a clarification on my vote: I didn't vote against Richards, and was going to vote for him at #5, not #3.

It would be Hutton, Gavaskar, Ponting, Tendulkar, Richards, Sobers, Gilchrist as the batting lineup.

 

[aussie tragic]

Well I'm sure you'll be in the final of "Champion Selectors" as you already have 3 of the 4 votes.....btw, if you'd have listened to me in the 1966-85 thread, you would have realised that Richards was best known as a # 3 (and the best in the World at the time), and therefor you would have had a 100 % record as well

 

[silentstriker]

Well I'm sure you'll be in the final of "Champion Selectors" as you already have 3 of the 4 votes.....btw, if you'd have listened to me in the 1966-85 thread, you would have realised that Richards was best known as a # 3 (and the best in the World at the time), and therefor you would have had a 100 % record as well

Oh he was a great #3, and for #3 alone he is ahead of Ponting. But I voted for Ponting at #3 as I wanted Richards to get the #5 spot, which IMO he would be ideal in considering the top order that this side would have. Richards was a better player than Ponting is, IMO, and therefore he could take the change in role a little better than Ponting probably can.

Richards would be a better #3 than ponting, but he'd be even better #5.

 

[PhoenixFire]

Stupid idea, best selector. Opinions aren't the same as fact.