Peak steve smith vs peak tendulkar

[subshakerz]

Garner for his batting.

Please retire this meme.

 

[sayon basak]

@sayon basak How does joe root placed at top 3 here?

Top 25 Batsmen In Test Cricket Since 1950 | Stat Sensei

The top 25 batsmen in test cricket judged on the basis of 12 criteria including Runs, Ave, SR, Top Inns, Record at Home, Away, In Asia, Outside Asia and more.

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It's just a ranking based on blind numbers, and way too simplistic.

 

[Coronis]

@sayon basak How does joe root placed at top 3 here?

Top 25 Batsmen In Test Cricket Since 1950 | Stat Sensei

The top 25 batsmen in test cricket judged on the basis of 12 criteria including Runs, Ave, SR, Top Inns, Record at Home, Away, In Asia, Outside Asia and more.

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Because its a flawed rating system.

 

[Johan]

Joe Root isn't top 10, probably just outside top 20 for me.

Joe Root>Ricky Ponting

 

[Johan]

Steven Smith?
He played 116 Tests.
Just 18 against SL, WI & Bang.

WI of the mid 2010s were minnow tier

 

[Johan]

Give away wicket when bored vs give away wicket after century? Which is better/worse

I think everyone bar maybe Kyear has Hobbs over Viv

 

[DrWolverine]

WI of the mid 2010s were minnow tier

That’s what I am saying.
Smith played very less matches against minnows

 

[DrWolverine]

I think everyone bar maybe Kyear has Hobbs over Viv

Sachin, Viv & Smith > Any pre war batsman except Don

 

[Johan]

Sachin, Viv & Smith > Any pre war batsman except Don

Ah, well, No, Hobbs had a peak where he was a higher outlier than Viv and stayed quality for 22 years, Hobbs has always beaten Viv on CW consensus, and rightfully so.

 

[Johan]

Sachin, Viv, Hutton etc can race for number three though

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Sachin, Viv & Smith > Any pre war batsman except Don

Why do you think Viv is better than Hobbs?

 

[Johan]

That’s what I am saying.
Smith played very less matches against minnows

did the math, Smith's average is upped by 2.65 points by hopeless Windies attacks.

 

[vidiq]

did the math, Smith's average is upped by 2.65 points by hopeless Windies attacks.

2015 wi attack in wi was not hopeless by any means, no batsmans scored 50+ when Smith made that 199.
And 2024 attack was also not hopeless.

 

[Johan]

2015 wi attack in wi was not hopeless by any means, no batsmans scored 50+ when Smith made that 199.
And 2024 attack was also not hopeless.

It was, at the time, deemed the worst attack to ever tour Australia and in the home series it's where Adam Voges averaged infinity so that was indeed pretty hopeless, you underrated how hopeless Australia batting (bar Smith) can look outside their preffered flat wickets at the time. I did not include 2024.

 

[DrWolverine]

Why do you think Viv is better than Hobbs?

I want to say something
But many will not agree

 

[OverratedSanity]

The early to mid 80s India/England attacks were absolutely terrible. Roach is a legit good bowler. If we're writing off Smith's runs vs them as minnow bashing, why exactly should we treat Vivs runs against attacks with the likes of Mohinder Amarnath, arshad ayub etc bowling a significant number of overs as anything different.

 

[Johan]

The early to mid 80s India/England attacks were absolutely terrible. Roach is a legit good bowler. If we're writing off Smith's runs vs them as minnow bashing, why exactly should we treat Vivs runs against attacks with the likes of Mohinder Amarnath, arshad ayub etc bowling a significant number of overs as anything different.

I agree, take out all his runs against India after the Quaret retired.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Roach and Holder were very good at home during their peaks. There was plenty of swing and seam there for a while.

 

[Thala_0710]

I want to say something
But many will not agree

Say it regardless

 

[Johan]

I won't put runs against mid 2010s Windies anything but a level behind runs against 1950s New Zealand tbh