Overrated/Underrated

[C_C]

you could say its both ways to be honest..

Perhaps.

 

[Craig]

Pringle - not so sure about him, but since i have never heard of him doing too much great things mainly in ODI's for England i'd say he is rated just about right.

Jimmy Adams

Possibly under-rated but I'm not the best person to answer that.

Kerry Jeremy

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Probably slightly underrated. He had to wait a long time for a proper run in international cricket (which is understandable given Australia's strength at the time) & was disgarded maybe a touch previously, especially from ODIs where his little left-armers were sometimes useful.

I'd say Lehmann is more than a little underrated personally. He's the one guy in Australian cricket I'm absolutely certain would have been a great player if he'd had more opportunities in tests. He had a fairly significant and successful ODI career, but his achievements in domestic first class cricket are remarkable (particularly for Yorkshire), and he was consistently one of the best run scorers in the Sheffield Shield all throughout the 90s, without getting much of a chance.

 

[C_C]

I'd say Lehmann is more than a little underrated personally. He's the one guy in Australian cricket I'm absolutely certain would have been a great player if he'd had more opportunities in tests. He had a fairly significant and successful ODI career, but his achievements in domestic first class cricket are remarkable (particularly for Yorkshire), and he was consistently one of the best run scorers in the Sheffield Shield all throughout the 90s, without getting much of a chance.

A great player may be a stretch(thats Ponting,Lara, Tendulkar category for me) but i'd say Lehmann could've been worldclass.
Great teams tend to be great because of their depth. Australia has had batsmen who would've played for almost any other team and the west indies had bowlers sitting in the sidelines good enough to be at worst a #2 in any other side ( players like Pat Patterson, Clarke, Daniel, etc.)

 

[Francis]

Lehman's underrated. Look at how great Australia's mid-order was around 2003-04. Lehman was Australia's worst player at the time, but that's not an insult because at the time, Martyn was averaging close to 50... in fact nearly all the players in the team averaged 50 who were batsmen.

But Lehman was like a rock. You could depend on him when things got rough and the way he played then was better than nearly all the current Aussie batsmen. Seriously has anybody realised that Australia's only main run scorers have been Hayden, Ponting and Hussey? Martyn, Clarke, Symonds, Gilchrist and even Langer haven't been performing like they can these past 12 months.

I think Lehman is underrated for making Australia more solid. That's the best way I can put it. You can ever disregard what I wrote above and just understand that Lehman made Australia more solid.

 

[Noman Shaikh]

Kerry, definitely underrated.

Saqlain Mushtaq?

 

[Ikki]

Or perhaps overrated, depending on the geography of the fans ?

So the English like him, despite his 'character', because he's Australian? That makes sense?

 

[Sanz]

So the English like him, despite his 'character', because he's Australian? That makes sense?

No because he has taken lot of English Wickets, We do rate him high but not as high as the English do and that is mainly because of his performance against our team.

Dont the Aussie rate Laxman higher than most others teams do ? I hope you can understand.

 

[C_C]

So the English like him, despite his 'character', because he's Australian? That makes sense?

The same character definions arnt consistent worldwide. Different cultures, different values.
Nevermind the fact that one has the tendency to rate players highest for the ones they've seen most ( which is why England-OZ stick together so much - along with their history and culture, they've pretty much played 30-40% of their matches against each other. Perhaps this is why there is a significant divide in opinion amongst non-english/aussie and english/aussie fans).

 

[Craig]

Kerry, definitely underrated.

Saqlain Mushtaq?

Probably rated about right now.

Younis Khan

 

[Noman Shaikh]

Younis Khan in test cricket is under-rated, but we should understand that most of his performances and big scores have come against India in the last 2 years. England series in England is where he has to prove himself as a trueclass player.

Younis Khan in ODI's has a long way to go, he's only got 1 hundred that too against Hong Kong. Though he can bat well in pressure situations and win matches. Time will tell.


Paul Collingwood?

 

[Craig]

Under-rated

Ed Smith

 

[Ikki]

The same character definions arnt consistent worldwide. Different cultures, different values.
Nevermind the fact that one has the tendency to rate players highest for the ones they've seen most ( which is why England-OZ stick together so much - along with their history and culture, they've pretty much played 30-40% of their matches against each other. Perhaps this is why there is a significant divide in opinion amongst non-english/aussie and english/aussie fans).

I'm not talking about form or playing. Shane Warne's character is what I'm talking about. Not too sure those who do rate him love him exactly for his character. Whereas those that seem to not rate him as highly have an issue with his mannerisms.

 

[C_C]

I'm not talking about form or playing. Shane Warne's character is what I'm talking about. Not too sure those who do rate him love him exactly for his character. Whereas those that seem to not rate him as highly have an issue with his mannerisms.

I may not like the man but that has zilch to do with me perceiving as a cricketer.
I may prefer Tendulkar over Lara but i've consistently argued that both Lara and Tendulkar are distinctly better than the Pontings, Inzamams and Kallises of the world.
None of those three would get into my 'top 15 bats ever' while Tendulkar and Lara at at top 6-7 ( Bradman, Gavaskar, Viv, Sobers and Chappell being the other 5).
However, i dont like Lara as a person at all.
From his prima donna behaviour, "cricket is ruining my life", trying to dictate his terms to the team, walking off tours, etc etc. Add on top of that i saw him in Kolkata during the hero cup finals and he was a total tosser to a few kids looking for his autograph ( i was one of them - he told us- a bunch of 11-12 year olds to 'f*ck off home to mommy and not bother him') and i dont think much of Lara as a person - certainly not one i would try to be friends with. But that doesnt stop me from rating him ahead of Steve Waugh ( who was a great batsman in his own right and a pretty nice guy off the field) or Dravid ( mr nice guy, on or off the field).

Warne has an unsavoury reputation but as far as i am concerned, his cricketing performances does not match Murali's and as such, he is significantly behind Murali.

 

[Ikki]

I may not like the man but that has zilch to do with me perceiving as a cricketer.
I may prefer Tendulkar over Lara but i've consistently argued that both Lara and Tendulkar are distinctly better than the Pontings, Inzamams and Kallises of the world.
None of those three would get into my 'top 15 bats ever' while Tendulkar and Lara at at top 6-7 ( Bradman, Gavaskar, Viv, Sobers and Chappell being the other 5).
However, i dont like Lara as a person at all.
From his prima donna behaviour, "cricket is ruining my life", trying to dictate his terms to the team, walking off tours, etc etc. Add on top of that i saw him in Kolkata during the hero cup finals and he was a total tosser to a few kids looking for his autograph ( i was one of them - he told us- a bunch of 11-12 year olds to 'f*ck off home to mommy and not bother him') and i dont think much of Lara as a person - certainly not one i would try to be friends with. But that doesnt stop me from rating him ahead of Steve Waugh ( who was a great batsman in his own right and a pretty nice guy off the field) or Dravid ( mr nice guy, on or off the field).

Warne has an unsavoury reputation but as far as i am concerned, his cricketing performances does not match Murali's and as such, he is significantly behind Murali.

So it doesn't affect you? OK, good to hear it.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Under-rated

Ed Smith

Probably a tad overrated in as much as he's a solid FC batter with a pretty obvious technical flaw but who was still deemed worthy of a go in tests based on the weight of his runs in one particular season. Frighteningly clever chap tho; double first in History from my local uni.

John Emburey

 

[Craig]

Under-rated

Neil Pickup

 

[vic_orthdox]

Overrated. If he didn't have 10K+ posts on a cricket forum, no-one would even know he bowled leg spin

Phil DeFreitas

 

[Sanz]

Warne has an unsavoury reputation but as far as i am concerned, his cricketing performances does not match Murali's and as such, he is significantly behind Murali.

What ??????

 

[Craig]

Overrated. If he didn't have 10K+ posts on a cricket forum, no-one would even know he bowled leg spin

Phil DeFreitas

Over-rated

Michael Vaughan?