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**Official**Zimbabwe in Bangladesh Thread

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Mr Casson said:
Pratyush, this Zimbabwe side is not a 'B' side. It's the best side they can field at the moment, and whether or not they are as good as Australia or even as good as they were a year ago is irrelevant; it's the best side they can field. It may be a matter of semantics, but it isn't a 'B' side.
Its not the best available side Zimbabwe can field.

Also, when they had to field a Zimbabwe A side recently, they played almost the same side which comprises Zimbabwe. There player base as always been horrible but I imagine its terrible now.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
marc71178 said:
No, it is the best available side ZImbabwe can field.
Hilarious. So Zimbabwe cannot field a side having A.Flower, Streak, G.Flower, and the like?

If South Africa chose to field Tsolilike instead of Boucher, it isnt the best side they can field.

In respect of Zimbabwe, with o much of player exodus right from the Neil Jonon, Goodwin exodus, there are 15-17 players who could make the side ahead of the current players.

Clearly not the best side they can field. Its nothing more than a club side and that doesnt change. Winnig against them shouldnt rank as a test win in the first place.
 

crickmate

U19 12th Man
Pratyush, frankly speaking, you are one of the blind supporters, who don't want the cricket to be globalized. You are just happy to see your team 7th team out of 10 rather than 20th out of 30. You people never give credits to new teams. I think people like you do that intentionally so that these team can never grow up. If they play good, you never give credit to them(you will either say the opponent did not have all the players of top form, or the pitch was not good). If they play bad one day, you just cry out "the cricket world is being destroyed, what ICC have done.".

This happened with Srilanka also, people were ridiculed at them once. Now you see where they are. And you will also see in near future when India will be very happy if they can manage to get a victory over Bangladesh. and then some Bangladeshi blind supporters like you will cry out when ICC will give test status to Nepal.
 
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mavric41

State Vice-Captain
Pratyush said:
Hilarious. So Zimbabwe cannot field a side having A.Flower, Streak, G.Flower, and the like?

If South Africa chose to field Tsolilike instead of Boucher, it isnt the best side they can field.

In respect of Zimbabwe, with o much of player exodus right from the Neil Jonon, Goodwin exodus, there are 15-17 players who could make the side ahead of the current players.

Clearly not the best side they can field. Its nothing more than a club side and that doesnt change. Winnig against them shouldnt rank as a test win in the first place.
In 50 or so years time, when we are all worm food, it will read in the record books as a win to the Bangers. Congrats to them - they have to start somewhere.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
crickmate said:
Pratyush, frankly speaking you are one of the blind supporters, who don't want the cricket to be globalized.
mavric41 said:
In 50 or so years time, when we are all worm food, it will read in the record books as a win to the Bangers. Congrats to them - they have to start somewhere.
Oh how do you assume that? If you want such a globaliation of the game, why not give test status to Namibia, Nepal right away? Holland will defeat Singapore and their people will be glad they won an official 'test' match. It will
be tremendous for the game to have the highest test score as 600* by M.L.Hayden vs Jakarta.

I am all for expansion and globalisation of the game but its a process. Bangladesh expect to be taken seriously after scrappin a first class competition in home? They need to be applauded for their win against India but how will they hold their own if they have no FC structure?

And how is the ICC responsibel to let Zimbabwe play any way when they spring such an unrepresentative side. Imagine England saying only blacks will play in their cricket or resort to racism and see the uproar that will cast.

Bring in more A tours, bring in more competitive cricket slowly like the intercontinental cup. Just dont grant test status to teams or let them be there like in the case of Zimbabwe. Then you will have even a team like Bangladesh who is promising rejoice in false glory of winning a test match.

It will show in the record books as a test win for Bangladesh. A test win against a club side.
 

DocHead

School Boy/Girl Captain
Well, it's not Bangladesh's fault is it? They can only play who's put in front of them, whether it's the Zimbo's best team or not is Zimbabwe's problem.

Congrats to Bangladesh, I imagine a 1st test victory ever is something special, no matter who it's against.

Zimbabwe on the other hand, are now truly pathetic......when are SA playing them? I'm sure Makhaya is looking forward to his 1st test fifty. Glenn McGrath could probably gun for a 100 against them.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
DocHead said:
Well, it's not Bangladesh's fault is it? They can only play who's put in front of them, whether it's the Zimbo's best team or not is Zimbabwe's problem.

Congrats to Bangladesh, I imagine a 1st test victory ever is something special, no matter who it's against.
Its the ICC's falt and Bangladesh get a win in the process. Doesnt mean they shold be exalted at a win againt a club ide just as teams shouldnt be overjoyed at scoring centuries against such a disgraceful team. If there are real progresses like emergence of a quality player or the beatin of a side like India, feel happy at your progress. Else its a false rejoicing. Like being happy at an achievement which is not exactly that in the true sense.

Scorng a century against Zimbabwe is considered an international century but is it really so? No. So just because the record books say so, feeling exalted is stupid. A lot of international runs made and test wickets taken have been easy in the last 3-4 years.
 

James90

Cricketer Of The Year
Bangladesh A defeated Zimbabwe A last year when they played, that's before the whole rebels thing so the claim that they could only beat a Zim B team isn't exactly correct. I'm probably the biggest Bangladesh fan on Cricketweb, I was happy for Bangladesh to win but wasn't overexcited, they were playing a weaker opponent and won easily. However I'm realived that they've finally got their first test win but I was much much happier when they beat India. That was the greatest feeling ever
 

bryce

International Regular
well done bangladesh and disappointing effort by zimbabwe, i'm glad to see enamul haque jr get amonst the wickets for once - he always bowls very well and is always economical without taking any wickets, no doubt he will overtake rafique as bangladesh's leading spinner in the years to come and also overtake him statistically, he is a brilliant bowler for one so young and the wickets should keep coming.
 

Adamc

Cricketer Of The Year
bryce said:
well done bangladesh and disappointing effort by zimbabwe, i'm glad to see enamul haque jr get amonst the wickets for once - he always bowls very well and is always economical without taking any wickets, no doubt he will overtake rafique as bangladesh's leading spinner in the years to come and also overtake him statistically, he is a brilliant bowler for one so young and the wickets should keep coming.
Well he's only played three Tests, so he hasn't really had much of a chance to get amongst the wickets. But yeah, he's a great prospect for Bangladesh, and they've found him at the right time given that Rafique doesn't have all that much time left in his career.
 

GotSpin

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Now you see where they are. And you will also see in near future when India will be very happy if they can manage to get a victory over Bangladesh
Want to bet on that? But i guess your right, a grass roots base of a few hundred million isn't that good
 

James90

Cricketer Of The Year
Enamul Jnr was the leading wicket taker in the u-19's World Cup and under 19's coach Richard McInness has stated that he'll be Bangladesh's leading wicket taker for many years. That's a fair bit of praise for the young man
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Pratyush said:
Hilarious. So Zimbabwe cannot field a side having A.Flower, Streak, G.Flower, and the like?

Same as saying England can't play the likes of Gooch and Botham.
 

PAKMAN

State 12th Man
well done Bangalesh
does anyone know the most number of tests it took for a test team to win their first tst match?
 

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
PAKMAN said:
well done Bangalesh
does anyone know the most number of tests it took for a test team to win their first tst match?

Not sure but it took New Zealand 26 years...

:(
 

Adamc

Cricketer Of The Year
Voltman said:
Not sure but it took New Zealand 26 years...

:(
'Only' 44 Tests in those 26 years though. Bangladesh's first win came in their 35th match, so NZ hold that proud record. :p NZ's win was against a pretty decent WI side though, containing the likes of Sobers, Weekes, Ramadhin and Valentine.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
marc71178 said:
Same as saying England can't play the likes of Gooch and Botham.
Oh so you reckon Gooch or Botham could make the Englih side right now? Or would Streak not manage to get into the Zimbabwe side?
 

Chubb

International Regular
A sad day for Zimbabwe, beaten by a team they have thrashed out of sight before. But this is what happens when you cleanse a country of its experience and talent. I hope Zimbabwe can come back in the second test. Bring back Vermeulen for Rogers (I rate him but he seems out of form) and Utseya for Cremer. Also slot in Ebrahim.
 

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