**Official** World XI v Asia XI

[ReallyCrazy]

First of all, you guys in India or Australia or whatever don't even know how expensive it is to watch cricket here in North America. Dish network are just making money making it so freakin expensive. I will go broke if I pay that much for watching cricket. Those guys need to do something about this.

Now about downloading music and movies, its perfectly legal in canada so im doing no crime.

 

[ReallyCrazy]

Yes it will indeed be called piracy if you downloaded of the net.But there is a Problem watching it on tv around north america.You have to pay 100s of dollars in roder to watch a cricket match.That is the reason people download cricket off the net and watch it live online.

actually some ppl get illegal receivers too

 

[cricket player]

actually some ppl get illegal receivers too

yes i have heard about that really crazy.YOu just have to pay 200 plus at once then you get to watch cricket matches every time.
If that is the case then people in india that shows cricket on local channel is piracy as well for that matter.

 

[Slow Love™]

No body is confused but they are arguing about a discussion that has nothing To do with them.Piracy is a big problem in usa people download music instead Of buying the album.The problem is not about money but it is about unfairness of dish netwrok and other companie's that charge people alot of Money.

You're probably confused about what I was arguing. I was saying that making a comparitive argument between stealing food because you can't afford it and pirating films/music etc is a very bad one.

Believe me, I'm very sympathetic to arguments that question the morality of excessive intellectual property legislation.

Having said this, cricketweb has the right to have whatever position it takes on people who promote piracy - it's their forums, and their prerogative, and I'm not looking to mount an argument to condone the practice of illegal downloading on the net - here anyway. Maybe if there was a thread on it, but I don't think the mods would allow it anyway.

 

[ReallyCrazy]

yes i have heard about that really crazy.YOu just have to pay 200 plus at once then you get to watch cricket matches every time.
If that is the case then people in india that shows cricket on local channel is piracy as well for that matter.

dude it happens in india all the time. I know ppl who jumped onto the neighbour's terrace and hijacked a connection..

and over here i know ppl w/ illegal receivers.

 

[cricket player]

no need to jack the connection you just need to have a antenna and move it around out side and you will get all the cricketing channe's.I use to do that i was a master at these kind of stuff back then.

 

[ReallyCrazy]

oh ya you can do it that way too. My neighbour did that in India.

But another friend of mine posed as the TV guy and went to the house opposite of his, got onto the terrace and revived his own cable connection that was cut off by the TV company.

 

[marc71178]

and abdul razzaq is ?? :S

He's a much better bet than Afridi - at least he has more than one style of play.

 

[marc71178]

No body is confused but they are arguing about a discussion that has nothing To do with them.Piracy is a big problem in usa people download music instead Of buying the album.The problem is not about money but it is about unfairness of dish netwrok and other companie's that charge people alot of Money.

Cricket is becoming a joke some people installed dish in there homes because of cricket.Now direct tv signed a contract with icc for 6 year's so people who have dish will not recieve cricket for over 6 year's that is jut unfair to me.
If you wana do some thing do it right unlike dish network.

It's called supply and demand - basic economics.

Piracy is wrong, it is illegal and there is no justification for it.

 

[Jono]

Are you mad? No one cares about piracy?!? Is that why massive media attention has been placed on piracy and eradicating it? Man, turn on the TV once in while. Catch up on what's going on in the world.

It's sad that some can't afford to attend or watch cricket given certain circumstances, but that still doesn't justify piracy. Would you steal food from a store if you couldn't afford it? If yes, then you need to sort out some morality issues.

Have you heard of the 'law of survival'? Although I agree with your viewpoint regarding piracy, you sure has hell used an absolutely shocking argument to back it up.

It's called supply and demand - basic economics.

No actually, its called monopolising. Prices rising due to excessive demand is basic economics, however dramatic increases in price by a single company when it is clear that the public have no other option is far from 'basic economics'.

I'd also imagine the demand for cricket in the USA would not be as large to result in the prices they have to pay for cricket. Maybe you should go back to Economics 101.

Piracy is wrong, it is illegal and there is no justification for it.

Not everything illegal is necessarily wrong, just as not everything legal is necessarily right. I am not claiming piracy is right, but don't force your beliefs on others.

By all means, if cricketweb takes a stance against piracy, this forum should not be used to promote it. However if posters are going to argue against piracy, please argue with some sense.

 

[Sehwag309]

750,000 Canadians have Illegal Satellite (Problem- Not the Pricing, they don't get American programming and the subsequent south asian programming..however, its slowly coming in but people have got so used to these recievers that no one wants to get the actual thing)

What we watch on webcast is basically for people who don't have access to Satellite or Cable or even a TV..its like inviting bunch of guys to watch at your place but for the Internet once has to rent servers and collect the money (max its mainly around 40-50 ppl). Others do it for Money, I infact asked Dish once via email...they said unless they have EXCLUSIVE broadcasting rights, one can do whatever they like with the feed

As for yesterday, I had no hand in webcasting or anything...but a friend from NZ who doesnt have an illegal satellite and was paying for the server from his pocket and only wanted a group of friends to watch the event who don't have access to Sat/Cable and take their contri as charity

BTW, Willow, Setanta and SG are also doing it similarly, however on a bigger scale

 

[Deja moo]

750,000 Canadians have Illegal Satellite (Problem- Not the Pricing, they don't get American programming and the subsequent south asian programming..however, its slowly coming in but people have got so used to these recievers that no one wants to get the actual thing)

What we watch on webcast is basically for people who don't have access to Satellite or Cable or even a TV..its like inviting bunch of guys to watch at your place but for the Internet once has to rent servers and collect the money (max its mainly around 40-50 ppl). Others do it for Money, I infact asked Dish once via email...they said unless they have EXCLUSIVE broadcasting rights, one can do whatever they like with the feed

As for yesterday, I had no hand in webcasting or anything...but a friend from NZ who doesnt have an illegal satellite and was paying for the server from his pocket and only wanted a group of friends to watch the event who don't have access to Sat/Cable and take their contri as charity

BTW, Willow, Setanta and SG are also doing it similarly, however on a bigger scale

So basically, the company spends a lot to get the rights to broadcast the events, but you just choose to not give them the money for it while using their feed nevertheless ?

 

[Sehwag309]

So basically, the company spends a lot to get the rights to broadcast the events, but you just choose to not give them the money for it while using their feed nevertheless ?

..well that is if one is broadcasting it thru illegal satellite, but ppl who do it buy the feed from them

 

[Deja moo]

..well that is if one is broadcasting it thru illegal satellite, but ppl who do it buy the feed from them

yes, but the people who buy the feed from them are broadcasting it to people whose only excuse for not buying it is that it is too expensive. It not like they wouldnt get the feed even if they decided to buy it legally.

 

[maxpower]

750,000 Canadians have Illegal Satellite (Problem- Not the Pricing, they don't get American programming and the subsequent south asian programming..however, its slowly coming in but people have got so used to these recievers that no one wants to get the actual thing)

WTF!!! 750000 ppl !!! that can't be true, if it is US companies must be pulling their hair out on all the money being lost..

 

[Sehwag309]

yes, but the people who buy the feed from them are broadcasting it to people whose only excuse for not buying it is that it is too expensive. It not like they wouldnt get the feed even if they decided to buy it legally.

..Actually, its mostly who really dont have access to Satellite and Cable..(mostly University)

One who has Satellite most likely has a house and does well, I personally havent come across anyone who has Satellite and still buy from webcast

But in Canada, its a diff deal, this Illegal Sat started way back and webcast is basically recent

 

[maxpower]

It's called supply and demand - basic economics.

Piracy is wrong, it is illegal and there is no justification for it.

you mean like the image of moe without approval of fox broadcasting
oh wait i've got homer DOH!!!!!

 

[Sehwag309]

Frankly, it all abt principals, ....nothnig different than downloading an mp3 off the net..and well there maybe very few who don't do that...Dunno abt Pratyush though

 

[Deja moo]

..Actually, its mostly who really dont have access to Satellite and Cable..(mostly University)

One who has Satellite most likely has a house and does well, I personally havent come across anyone who has Satellite and still buy from webcast

But in Canada, its a diff deal, this Illegal Sat started way back and webcast is basically recent

Lets put it this way...if I didnt get pirated copies of DVDs from the local bootlegger, I would be forced to buy the original DVDs, wouldnt I ? And that is what I should have been doing in the first place.

Similarly, if there was no webcasting, people would have to buy the feed from the broadcaster like they should if they want to view the match legally.

 

[Sehwag309]

But how can they, when they can't put Satellite or Cable at places they live

Thus Places like Willow.tv started and others started playing around and now its everywhere