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**Official** West Indies in South Africa Thread
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garage flower
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I think Ganga was far too busy looking terrified to lok organized. How he got past the opening bowlers in the 1st innings I don't know, though full credit to him for going on to make a decent score (shocking dismissal in the end though!). He just doesn't look the part of a test match opener.Mr Mxyzptlk said:I don't see what Ganga did wrong whilst opening. He looked rather organized. They are not going to fly someone out unless Gayle has to return home. These things cost money.
Also, do you have something against Carlton Baugh? The man smashed 150odd a week ago and scored an unbeaten hundred against the Aussies earlier this year.
Fidel Edwards wasn't at his best, but he still bowled the ball of the match.
As for Baugh, I'm just being realistic. He's an inexperienced reserve wicketkeeper for god's sake! There's no way he should be considered as a frontline batsman in an away match against the 2nd best team in the world (oops - hope no Indian fans are reading this!). The scores you're referring to were made in - largely irrelevant - warm up matches. They hint at his potential, but his performances in the internationals against the Aussies are a more accurate indicator of his likely performances in this test series.
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Baugh wasn't horrible in the games against Australia. He certainly wasn't the worst. Also, I think he's a batsman who they are trying to develop into a 'keeper. He's not a natural 'keeper.
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Or Dravid.
Or Dujon, who I think came from the same school as Baugh. I think several West Indian wicket-keepers graduated from that same school. Not sure if Baugh is one of them though. Hendriks, Alexander, Dujon...
Or Dujon, who I think came from the same school as Baugh. I think several West Indian wicket-keepers graduated from that same school. Not sure if Baugh is one of them though. Hendriks, Alexander, Dujon...
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As he should be.
Craig
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Actually the line up was Noffke, Bichel, Gillespie, MacGill and Hogg.Mr Mxyzptlk said:
Only one of the five is truely world class. And that is Gillespie. Noffke probably would of played for Australia by now in ODIs and perhaps in a couple of Tests if it werent for injuries.
Bichel is good but he is nothing exceptional. He has a big heart though but it doesnt make him a great bowler. MacGill is too inconsistant IMO and Hogg is a good one-day bowler.
Not so sure about Tests although to his credit and can lay to claim to getting Lara out a few times in the two Tests he played in (although Lara actually got himself out IMO).
garage flower
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I'm not suggesting he was horrible, but there's a big difference between being "not horrible" and being good enough to be picked as a specialist bat away to South Africa.Mr Mxyzptlk said:
Anyway, sod it, let's hope they pick him and he makes me look an idiot.
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So basically you're discounting the runs by proving to me that only one of the bowlers in world class? Ok fair enouh. So I guess Ganguly's hundred doesn't count, Dravid's double hundred doesn't count, Laxman's hundred added to the list?Craig said:
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Rather let's hope Gayle is fit so you won't get the chance to look like an idiot.garage flower said:
Anyway, they could do worse... there's always Dwayne Smith. *shudders*
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No I was correcting you on the bowlers he scored the runs against.Mr Mxyzptlk said:
In my own opinion I think Gillespie is truely a world class bowler, but whether or not you think MacGill and Bichel are good bowlers or even international standards is up to you.
I will debate with you later but I'm hungry and going to have dinner.
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But how does that change my opinion of Baugh's innings? He faced an attack which was at least par to the current Australian attack. Rather, if Gillespie isn't fit for the Boxing Day Test, it is better than the current attack.Craig said:
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WI v Border
WW Hinds c Kreusch b Henderson 15
BC Lara not out 79 (130) 16x4
RR Sarwan c Gamiet b Pringle 4
DR Smith b Henderson 22 (25) 5x4
S Chanderpaul not out 21 (26) 4x4
Still to bat: +CS Baugh, VC Drakes, D Mohammed, R Rampaul, A Sanford, FH Edwards.
T Henderson 2/43 (15 overs)
WW Hinds c Kreusch b Henderson 15
BC Lara not out 79 (130) 16x4
RR Sarwan c Gamiet b Pringle 4
DR Smith b Henderson 22 (25) 5x4
S Chanderpaul not out 21 (26) 4x4
Still to bat: +CS Baugh, VC Drakes, D Mohammed, R Rampaul, A Sanford, FH Edwards.
T Henderson 2/43 (15 overs)
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Mild at best. :PPY said:West Indians 157/4,
BC Lara b Strydom 81 (135b 16x4 0x6)
He's got a bit of form at the moment hasn't he?
192/4
S Chanderpaul not out 28 (38) 5x4
SC Baugh not out 29 (32) 4x4 1x6
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The jinx continues... Baugh out.
