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[shortpitched713]

Gul may be quicker but Asif is atleast a good 3 inches taller

Hmm, they've always looked pretty close to me, and Gul is pretty lanky. Anyway, they're both probably wonderful prospects.

 

[shortpitched713]

On legacy Tendulkar is excellent. He hasn't been excellent for a while now though.

Even taking into account current form, I think he's still India's third best batsman, and much more dependable than Gayle and Sarwan.

 

[marc71178]

He scored a 140 something in the DLF cup...who told you he only scored 83 runs

Cricinfo told me he scored 83 @ 20.75 - is that not correct then?

 

[marc71178]

And to Marc
How long does form have to continue for it to still be termed temporary then?

He's played like 11 innings since the last time he got his 35th century. I admit he wasnt at his top back then too, but he still scored 3 50's also last year. So he has been really out of form over the last year, in which he hasn't played a lot of Cricket. You guys talk like he's been out of form since like 1999.

His last 29 matches (the best part of 4 years) he has 1758 @ 43.95 with 4 tons and 7 half centuries.

2 of those matches were against Bangladesh when he certainly cashed in.

Without those 2 it's 1474 runs @ 39.

So how long does a poor run of form have to continue for it to be termed temporary?

 

[TT Boy]

Cricinfo told me he scored 83 @ 20.75 - is that not correct then?

I'll reckon- 2006/7

http://statserver.cricket.org/guru?...edhigh=;csearch=;submit=1;.cgifields=viewtype

 

[marc71178]

Since we're discussing Tests, I looked at Test series - is that the wrong thing to do then?

 

[TT Boy]

Since we're discussing Tests, I looked at Test series - is that the wrong thing to do then?

Sorry thought you was talking about ODI's, that's what Dravid was implying.

 

[Gajanayake]

Chanderpaul's strength lies in his doggedness and mental toughness. In a pressure situation, I'd back him ahead of Sehwag very easily. The variance in Sehwag's performance against different countries is also greater then Chanderpaul. Not to mention, Chanderpaul has been around since 1993-94 and Sehwag made his debut in 2001-02.

Therefore, Chanderpaul's record should be so much better than Sehwag's since 2001-2002 since he has also played in that time....but it isn't.

There is negligible difference between Sehwag's performance at home and those away....Chanderpaul's drops by nearly seven when he plays away from home.

Sehwag also has stronger performances against Australia, South Africa and Pakistan
whereas Chanders is only stronger against England, the countries with the top 4 bowling attacks.

Sehwag is also an opener .....Chanders has the relative comfort of batting in the middle order.

Yeah I agree there are plus points for Chanders in that he's probably more reliable.
But Sehwag is a different style of player....he's a gamebreaker, a guy who can fire his team to big totals very quickly.

On balance, I can't possibly see how Chanders can be considered to be in a "different league" to Sehwag.
Someone like Dravid I would consider to be in a different league to Sehwag but Chanders no.

 

[nightprowler10]

Cricinfo told me he scored 83 @ 20.75 - is that not correct then?

Not sure where you got those stats for the DLF cup. He scored 222 runs @ 74.00.

 

[Arjun]

What is your opinion of the WI selection for the first Test? They had played five bowlers, including Bravo, even though Gayle was also available as a stock off-spinner. Maybe they had one bowler too many?

 

[nightprowler10]

They went in with one pacer too many in my opinion. They knew it was going to be a turner, so drop a medium pacer for another batsman and keep Dave. And thats another thing, I don't think Lara used DM enough. He was obviously troubling Pakistan from time to time.

 

[Arjun]

How much of a factor will Chris Gayle's off-spin be in a Test innings?

 

[Beleg]

Gajanayake,

Sehwag's performance against Sri Lanka, NZ and Bangladesh is also poorer then Chanderpaul's. The lowest Chanderpaul averages against any country is 28 (Zimbabwe) while Sehwag boasts lower averages against three nations. Chanderpaul averages more then Sehwag is 6 countries.

Sehwag lacks consistency. His figures are skewered due to high scores. Sehwag already has eight ducks in 80 innings, while Chanderpaul has accumulated 10 ducks in 170 innings. Chanderpaul's average in both India and Sri Lanka is excellent. The only blot on an otherwise distinguished career is his average in Australia - but I'd say that's more due to the Australian pace attack then Warne.

In summation, Sehwag might score a century but he's just as liable to score a duck. Chanderpaul is much more dependable.

 

[Nishant]

Even taking into account current form, I think he's still India's third best batsman, and much more dependable than Gayle and Sarwan.

You're probably right there! But, it is also fair to say that he has also been incocnsistent of late; a good score is usually followed by a low score; whereas Gayle has been performing consistently lately; yet i do agree that in a few more months, i probably will be talking about the inconsistency of gayle!

By the way, mate, uve put AMRICA!!!!!!!! I REEEEALLY hope that it was a joke!!

 

[shortpitched713]

whereas Gayle has been performing consistently

We're talking about Test cricket. Gayle has never been consistent in Test cricket.

 

[shortpitched713]

By the way, mate, uve put AMRICA!!!!!!!! I REEEEALLY hope that it was a joke!!

I'll leave you to figure that out for yourself.

 

[marc71178]

Not sure where you got those stats for the DLF cup. He scored 222 runs @ 74.00.

I was talking about Tests - the form of the game under discussion.

That's his last series...

 

[nightprowler10]

Cricinfo probables have listed Samiullah Khan Niazi in the XI in place of Razzaq. This is good news IMO. He should have been tried against England, though.

 

[TT Boy]

Cricinfo probables have listed Samiullah Khan Niazi in the XI in place of Razzaq. This is good news IMO. He should have been tried against England, though.

Sounds a better move if you ask me. It's not like on these sort of wickets you would need an extra batsman* and with Kaneria's lack of potency, the more wicket taking options the better.

* Though it seems like according to Cricinfo that neither captain wouldn't mind a bowl first tomorrow.

 

[tooextracool]

Sehwag's performance against Sri Lanka, NZ and Bangladesh is also poorer then Chanderpaul's. The lowest Chanderpaul averages against any country is 28 (Zimbabwe) while Sehwag boasts lower averages against three nations. Chanderpaul averages more then Sehwag is 6 countries.

This might be my only post in this thread, but i have to say that this is the first time ive seen anyone use performances against bangladesh to prove that someone is a better player or even to back up any argument.
p.s- jacques rudolph best player ever?