***Official*** West Indies in New Zealand

[Tim]

No thats right. We've got a bit of work to do in tests, but in ODI's we're getting close to being pretty good.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

No thats right. We've got a bit of work to do in tests, but in ODI's we're getting close to being pretty good.

Agreed, but then New Zealand has had some quality about them for a while in ODIs. That said, ODI cricket is the more potent form of the game as far as the West Indies batting is concerned. In that way, both teams are similar.

 

[Natman20]

In terms of ODI cricket I see no similarities between these teams. I think this will be an easy whitewash for NZ. I think West Indies arnt very competitive anymore which is kind of sad. Tests may be different though which I put down to lack of international tests NZ plays. The West Indies batting might be ok but I see there main problem being in the bowling department.

 

[Prince EWS]

From the looks of some of the posts in this thread, the West Indian ODI team is tremendously under-rated....

 

[Natman20]

From the looks of some of the posts in this thread, the West Indian ODI team is tremendously under-rated....

We will just have to see but I rate them at the moment between Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and then the rest of the bunch but we will have to see this series they may be able to pull something off. Its unpredictable. Brian Lara isn't playing ODIs in this series is he? wasn't there an article a while ago saying he wasn't playing in ODIs

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

In terms of ODI cricket I see no similarities between these teams. I think this will be an easy whitewash for NZ. I think West Indies arnt very competitive anymore which is kind of sad. Tests may be different though which I put down to lack of international tests NZ plays. The West Indies batting might be ok but I see there main problem being in the bowling department.

That zoom you just heard was the point flying way over your head.

New Zealand has a potent batting lineup that doesn't fire consistently.
West Indies has a potent batting lineup that doesn't fire consistently.

That was the extent of my point. The West Indies batting is also more potent than that of New Zealand. The fact that New Zealand has a better ODI team has no bearing on that AFAIK.

 

[33/3from3.3]

what does AFAIK mean

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

It's a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, defined by a wrapping of 5 letters. To different people it means different things. It's like profanity, or VB.

For the general masses - As Far As I Know.

 

[Natman20]

Has anyone seen this Jerome Taylor guy bowl? His stats look like he is quite promising it will be interesting.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Has anyone seen this Jerome Taylor guy bowl? His stats look like he is quite promising it will be interesting.

He exploded onto the scene a couple years back with genuine pace, good accuracy, and a keen ability to reverse swing the ball. He was only 18/19 back then though, and he broke down after a couple of Tests. He fought back from injury and returned with a bang in the Carib Cup last season. He then broke down again midseason. He's recovered once more and bowled okay this season. He's nowhere near ready for international cricket though, IMO. I think him going to New Zealand is almost as bad as Jermaine Lawson going to Australia - they're rushing him.

Taylor is a classic case of a young man being forced into top flight cricket when his body isn't ready for it.

 

[marc71178]

So why isn;t he going to the West Indies with the England 'A' team?

Because he's not actually that good?

 

[Blaze]

Because he's not actually that good?

He may be though, at least his form whilst playing for Otago suggests that there is something there for the English selectors to look at.

 

[marc71178]

But his form and the fact that he's IMO not even a Warwickshire definite with a fully fit squad means he's miles away from England.

 

[sirjeremy11]

Maybe another game added to the Winides tour to give them some practise...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3564039a1823,00.html

And can Jay Caboram PLEASE stop doing this to us!

 

[luckyeddie]

It's a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, defined by a wrapping of 5 letters. To different people it means different things. It's like profanity, or VB.

Venereal Basic?

 

[superkingdave]

But his form and the fact that he's IMO not even a Warwickshire definite with a fully fit squad means he's miles away from England.

c'mon Marc the guy has play 90 out of Warwickshire's 93 games over the last 2 seasons - he hasn't missed a single first class match (2331 runs@46.62) and has only missed 3 LO games. He's your 3rd best batsman (after Knight and Bell)

Now his bowling that's a different matter, but he's been having success in NZ in LO games and not FC games. It's only in the last season or so he's started bowling regularly. his stats in England last year while not quite as good (15 wickets @28) as in NZ. He's also pretty expensive (in terms of ER) here and in NZ, with economy over 5 an over.

Do we know why he left SA?

 

[Tim]

The selectors would be foolish not to give a player Styris like time in the middle if this Selection side does get a game.

Im guessing there will be players like Vincent, Mills, Styris thrown in with players like Nicol, Ryder & maybe a bolter like Bradley-John Watling.

 

[Natman20]

Chris Harris is a definate for me, he would be the one to pick to replace the likes of Cairns and Oram. I like the look of Paul Hitchcocks Batting and bowling even though I only saw him play a few times most recently in the 20/20 and he could be a suprise pick. Nah probably not Go Ross Taylor and Jeetan Patel. Is Andre Adams still injured?

 

[cric_manic]

That zoom you just heard was the point flying way over your head.

New Zealand has a potent batting lineup that doesn't fire consistently.
West Indies has a potent batting lineup that doesn't fire consistently.

That was the extent of my point. The West Indies batting is also more potent than that of New Zealand. The fact that New Zealand has a better ODI team has no bearing on that AFAIK.

The WI suck ATM,they are nowere near a fully fit NZ team In ODI(even with BCL)if they did cause an upset by wining a few games it will be because of there bowlers

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

The WI suck ATM,they are nowere near a fully fit NZ team In ODI(even with BCL)if they did cause an upset by wining a few games it will be because of there bowlers

You're aware of the meaning of 'potent', right?

Gayle > any opener in NZ atm.
Lara >>>>>>>>>>> Fleming, who I presume is NZ's best batsman.
Sarwan > Vincent, Styris, Marshall, Fulton, McMillan, any other middle order batsman you want to toss in there.
Chanderpaul > Sarwan and Gayle.

That is all.