***Official*** West Indies in Australia

[superkingdave]

I'd like to see Mohammed given the chance tbh, definately over Breese

 

[roseboy64]

Nagamootoo was woefully substandard. He took domestic wickets with flat "legbreak" that declined to break. The West Indies can't afford to play a specialist spinner who doesn't even try to turn the ball. He has spunk though.

Thing is Breese is more of an allrounder than a specialist spinner.

 

[tooextracool]

Edwards looked pretty good against Pakistan.

edwards for me is far too inconsistent, and his bowling action makes him far less likely to be accurate. he bowls far too short and its only when he gets his line and length right that he looks anything like being effective. contrast that to darren powell who is a lot more accurate and can also bowl at a brisk pace.

 

[tooextracool]

not that he's failed miserably its just that he's been so inconsitent, take for example recently he scored that big double hundred vs SA then failed throughout the series.....

yep 1 double hundred on a dead flat wicket followed by 5 failures after that. his technique as far as im concerned is too poor for him to succeed on a wicket that helps the bowler even marginally.

 

[tooextracool]

Lawson is at least as good a bowler as Powell. He bowled exceptionally in Sri Lanka and has put in performances against Australia before. The problem with Powell is that he's not fit enough. If he can get some stamina and build, he could be a world class bowler.

im not sure about the stamina issues, but darren powell offers a lot more in terms of variety than jermaine lawson. from what i've seen from powell he can bowl outswingers at a good pace, which is impressive. jermaine lawson is a more hit the deck bowler whos looking for seam movement.

 

[tooextracool]

One thing that people underestimate is the ability of West Indian bowlers to reverse swing the ball over the last year or so. They've been getting it to reverse in conditions that the opposition hasn't. That could be an asset.

im presuming your referring to pedro collins here, or is there someone else in the WI who reverses the ball?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Thing is Breese is more of an allrounder than a specialist spinner.

And he's a substandard batsman too. He's way inferior to Bravo, and you can't play him in place of a specialist bowler, so how exactly does Breese feature? I definitely wouldn't bat Breese at 6 or even 7 in Tests.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

edwards for me is far too inconsistent, and his bowling action makes him far less likely to be accurate. he bowls far too short and its only when he gets his line and length right that he looks anything like being effective. contrast that to darren powell who is a lot more accurate and can also bowl at a brisk pace.

Agreed mostly, except that when Edwards gets it right, he's VERY effective.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

im presuming your referring to pedro collins here, or is there someone else in the WI who reverses the ball?

Powell was doing it constantly against South Africa. Lawson also got some reverse swing in Sri Lanka I believe. Bravo did it often too.

 

[roseboy64]

And he's a substandard batsman too. He's way inferior to Bravo, and you can't play him in place of a specialist bowler, so how exactly does Breese feature? I definitely wouldn't bat Breese at 6 or even 7 in Tests.

It's just that he's the best option IMO if you're going for a spinner. Who knows how much he's improved since his last foray into international cricket. Could turn out to be a trump card. They went back to Browne so no worse and much better.

 

[roseboy64]

Powell was doing it constantly against South Africa. Lawson also got some reverse swing in Sri Lanka I believe. Bravo did it often too.

Does Collymore have the ability to do that? I don't think so.

 

[tooextracool]

Powell was doing it constantly against South Africa. Lawson also got some reverse swing in Sri Lanka I believe. Bravo did it often too.

i was unaware of powell and lawson doing it, certainly lawson comes as a major surprise. i should have remembered bravo though,who reversed it in england at old trafford especially

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Does Collymore have the ability to do that? I don't think so.

He relies a lot on seam in general, but can be a big handful when the ball swings. For a good example, see his haul against Sri Lanka when last they toured.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

i was unaware of powell and lawson doing it, certainly lawson comes as a major surprise. i should have remembered bravo though,who reversed it in england at old trafford especially

Powell gets it to reverse rather nicely, but as I said before, his stamina is a big worry. He touched 90 in the first Test he played for the year. He's been lingering in the low 80s for the most part since.

 

[roseboy64]

He relies a lot on seam in general, but can be a big handful when the ball swings. For a good example, see his haul against Sri Lanka when last they toured.

Hmm...yeah. Figured.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

It's just that he's the best option IMO if you're going for a spinner. Who knows how much he's improved since his last foray into international cricket. Could turn out to be a trump card. They went back to Browne so no worse and much better.

Browne wasn't played as an allrounder or a bowler. Are you honestly saying you would play Breese and bat him at 6 or 7? Or are you trying to say that you'd pick him ahead of Bravo? And if you're saying neither of those two things, you must be suggesting that he play as a specialist bowler, which is ridiculous.

 

[aussie]

Is that a Dean Jones-type comment?

They've already got to hang themselves!

but its true....

 

[aussie]

There seems to be some confusion between Wavell and Ryan Hinds here.

wa.....

 

[aussie]

It's just that he's the best option IMO if you're going for a spinner. Who knows how much he's improved since his last foray into international cricket. Could turn out to be a trump card. They went back to Browne so no worse and much better.

sensing a bit of jamaican biasness here mate

 

[greg]

Browne wasn't played as an allrounder or a bowler. Are you honestly saying you would play Breese and bat him at 6 or 7? Or are you trying to say that you'd pick him ahead of Bravo? And if you're saying neither of those two things, you must be suggesting that he play as a specialist bowler, which is ridiculous.

I think the argument is that he would pick him ahead of another spinner. Which is probably an argument for not picking a spinner.