***Official*** West Indies in Australia

[jlo33692]

You don't have to. Just think of how many great pace bowlers there have been in the last 12 years, though Ricky ponting has only been playing Test cricket for 10 of them, but say what.

Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Courtney Walsh
Curtly Ambrose
Glenn McGrath
Shaun Pollock
arguably Jason Gillespie
perhaps Shoaib Akhtar in recent times
possibly Javagal Srinath
long shot Makhaya Ntini
feeling generous? maybe Daren Gough

Now there are your bowlers. I've done the "hard" work for you. Make your point.

Err you didnt do any of the hard work,i had already mentioned the main guys,although you do convienently leave out quite a few,a Donald,Harmisson,flintoff,jones,Vass,Bond,Benjimen,Bishop,Cairns,anyway you look the rest up.He averages 55 over last 10 yearshe has 4 double hundreds and is batting at number 3 in the best team that has played cricket,test or odi,he will more than likely go on to be the greatest run scorer in test history as he is only 30 year 0ld and at the average he has of 55 and presuming he makes it to around the 35 /36 year old he will have passed the record.
Wouldnt you like to have a captain like him huh that can say they are number 1 in both forms of the game for last or all of his career,he has never been in a 2nd ranked team and holds a couple of world cups ,and 1 as captain,making 140 odd not out in a final,,and blah blah blah but what does all this mean to you and Marc,absolutly nothing as all you can come up with is he hasnt faced any good bowlers of any note,So you continue to believe that,i will continue to believe what the averages and good knowlegable people that know the game believe but more than anything else i will watch as captain of the world test and ODI teams wallop the west indies (again) and you can choke on your jamacan rum as Ricky knocks up ton after ton in the windies wolloping hahahahahahahahahaha
Your jelousy of such a GREAT team is showing through mister.Number 1 for 10 /15 years and counting.


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argue with the averages not me..................................................................

 

[jlo33692]

Marc has a point though. Playing 1 or 2 domestic games per year is nothing to back up your claims.

Do you not read the threads?????

What is your problem man??
You seem to want to single oiut every single point i make and then want me to prove something.
I will tell you this for the 3rd time and hopefully put it to rest.
The point was made that Ponting does not face any of the australians,I have said he does ,not many times but he does in the Sheffield shield and pura cup matches. Now i did not say that they play each other 10 times or 5 times or 1 time,but i said they do play each other in cricket games,FACT,now if you still have a problem with that,then i cant help it. You seem to single out comments as Marc does and ask for proof,when you show them you want more ,then you pop up with the classic of wellthe bowlers he faced were no good over his time hahahaha
Get real will you Mr,,,YOUR POINT IS? What is it this time?

 

[marc71178]

Marc you dont get it do you......Listen as i say it again, the comment was played that they Ponting didnt have to [play against the other aussies,i said they do in the state games not much but they do.
So weatehr they play 1 time 6 times or 2 times a year then they play dont they?

anyways drop it i said marc as i cant be bothered argueing with ppl like you that take out 1 little snippet out of ppl points and post them and disect them and when shown what you want you then post something like this above???? The point is again they play each other ,,THEY PLAY EACH OTHER,what part do you not undersatand. now can you please drop it as you are like a dog with a bone that twists ppls posts to suit your arguement.

No, they don't because they do not play in domestic cricket - regardless of what you try and say, you fail to provide numbers - funny that, since they immediately make your point invalid.

 

[marc71178]

but what does all this mean to you and Marc,absolutly nothing as all you can come up with is he hasnt faced any good bowlers of any note,

So go on then, tell us all these good or great fast bowling attacks that he's scored these thousands of runs against then?

 

[marc71178]

Do you not read the threads?????

What is your problem man??
You seem to want to single oiut every single point i make and then want me to prove something.
I will tell you this for the 3rd time and hopefully put it to rest.
The point was made that Ponting does not face any of the australians,I have said he does ,not many times but he does in the Sheffield shield and pura cup matches.

So when did he last play a game then?

A point you seem to fail to be able to provide us with.

 

[jlo33692]

So when did he last play a game then?

A point you seem to fail to be able to provide us with.

Marc.prove what????
What if i go and find that Ponting played say 6 months ago ??/does that not prove that they do play against each other?

 

[jlo33692]

Marc.prove what????
What if i go and find that Ponting played say 6 months ago ??/does that not prove that they do play against each other?

ps when you quote me can you please put the whole of the quote in not just the bit you select,Also Marc it might help you some if you make some points yourself rather than read everyones all the time and take pot shots,it does get a bit boring knowing everything you post is being taken out of contex by you and turning it around,what part of they have played against each other in domestic cricket do you not understand???
they do play against each other,not much but they do play against each other.you prove me wrong instead of asking for proof all the time,i made a staemant that i believe and know to be true,,you dispute it so YOU prove me wrong.

 

[marc71178]

Marc.prove what????
What if i go and find that Ponting played say 6 months ago ??/does that not prove that they do play against each other?

So still not providing the info then...

It doesn't show anything if he played 1 or 2 games in the last 4 years.

 

[marc71178]

ps when you quote me can you please put the whole of the quote in not just the bit you select,

I'll quote the relevant bit, most of what I snip is too hard to read anyway.

i made a staemant that i believe and know to be true,,you dispute it so YOU prove me wrong.

No, you need to prove all these games that the top Aussies have supposedly played in Australian domestic Cricket.

However I note that you consistently don't for some reason, in the same way you're yet to show us this list of good or great bowlers Ponting has scored so many runs against...

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Do you not read the threads?????

I'm a moderator. Of course I do.

What is your problem man??

Stupid posting annoys me.

YOUR POINT IS? What is it this time?

I've made my point. Take a page from my book and read the thread.

 

[jlo33692]

season just completed 2004/05 ,test and ODI players to play in domestic cricket
JL Langer 3 5 0 332 134 66.40 69.31 2 1 2 -
MEK Hussey 8 15 2 721 223* 55.46 54.74 2 2
BA Williams 6 6 0 23 13 3.83 56.09 - -
BJ Hodge 8 15 1 891 204* 63.64 67.14 3 4
IJ Harvey 9 15 3 434 90* 36.16 46.96 - 3 3 -
CL White 9 16 1 465 119 31.00 54.89 1 1 8 -
MTG Elliott 10 19 0 585 120 30.78 49.36 1 5
SK Warne 4 5 0 113 75 22.60 68.48 - 1
ML Lewis 8 13 2 72 21 6.54 34.44 - -
DS Lehmann 2 4 0 169 104 42.25 109.03 1 - 2 -
SW Tait 10 18 7 190 58 17.27 58.28 - 1 3
SR Watson 8 15 1 588 136 42.00 59.39 1 3 5
JR Hopes 9 16 1 609 107 40.60 69.52 1 3
A Symonds 7 13 0 516 126 39.69 75.10 1 3
NM Hauritz 6 10 4 121 45* 20.16 36.33 - - 2 -
ML Love 8 16 0 295 116 18.43 39.97 1 1 7
BJ Haddin 11 18 3 902 154 60.13 83.28 2 5 35 3
SM Katich 2 3 0 120 78 40.00 44.94 - 1 1
NW Bracken 11 15 4 267 35 24.27 86.40 - -
SCG MacGill 11 12 4 97 27 12.12 67.83 - -
SR Clark 10 12 3 103 25 11.44 66.45 - -
B Hogg 4 6 0 243 109 40.50 83.79 1 1
Marc this list is season just gone(above)
i had to go back the year before 2004 to get to Ponting last game for tassie
Also if you didnt know the Aussies have also played against Australia A on a few occasions.
RT Ponting 1 1 0 12 12 12.00 92.30 - - 1 -
Now here is RT PONTINGS games for Tasmania vs other states
RT Ponting 54 98 14 5046 233 60.07 21 15 39 -
so here he is ,he has played 54 games now that is all i can find. will you now lay off as i have said Ponting has played against other test players,you said prove it,i have as best i can,.I cannot do more than find this,but of course you will want more so you can look for yourself.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Donald,Harmisson,flintoff,jones,Vass,Bond,Benjimen,Bishop,Cairns

LOL. Harmison, Jones and Flintoff are the basis of my point!! He didn't play them very well. That...was...my...point! Wow!

Bond has 56 Test wickets. I refuse to call him great until he proves himself further. Cairns and Benjamin were hardly great bowlers. Cairns was, however, a great allrounder.

Vaas is a very good bowler, but far from great. Bishop... an excellent bowler. You may have a point with him.

My conclusion: you are one of the majority of cricket watchers as defined by you earlier.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

so here he is ,he has played 54 games now that is all i can find. will you now lay off as i have said Ponting has played against other test players,you said prove it,i have as best i can,.I cannot do more than find this,but of course you will want more so you can look for yourself.

That proves nothing. To prove your point, you have to go and show that the matches he played were against quality Australian Test bowlers. It may seem like pedantry, but it's the only way to prove your point.

 

[jlo33692]

I'm a moderator. Of course I do.

Stupid posting annoys me.

I've made my point. Take a page from my book and read the thread.

Dont know how you got to be a moderator with an attitude like yours,
you are a very antagonistic and jelous man and i would appreciate it if you didnt respond to any more of my comments as they are not meant for west indian losers such as yourself MAN
And ditto you marc as you are just ,well i better not say but please respond to others from now on and not mine as i have told you i am bored with your repetitive points over and over again,you continually take people out of contex and post bits that suit you and then turn them around to suit your arguement,no doubt you will find something wrong about pontings 54 games for tassie ,dont know how but you will as that is your life to get on here and pick out insignificant nbits of ppls posts and make a big issue of them and waste ppls time.Please do me a favour and do not reply to anything i post as i really dont care about yours or this west indian loser have to say

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Dont know how you got to be a moderator with an attitude like yours,
you are a very antagonistic and jelous man and i would appreciate it if you didnt respond to any more of my comments as they are not meant for west indian losers such as yourself MAN
And ditto you marc as you are just ,well i better not say but please respond to others from now on and not mine as i have told you i am bored with your repetitive points over and over again,you continually take people out of contex and post bits that suit you and then turn them around to suit your arguement,no doubt you will find something wrong about pontings 54 games for tassie ,dont know how but you will as that is your life to get on here and pick out insignificant nbits of ppls posts and make a big issue of them and waste ppls time.Please do me a favour and do not reply to anything i post as i really dont care about yours or this west indian loser have to say

Quoted for posterity.

 

[jlo33692]

That proves nothing. To prove your point, you have to go and show that the matches he played were against quality Australian Test bowlers. It may seem like pedantry, but it's the only way to prove your point.

you imbosile,that is what he asked,,,Man,go back to your rum will you ,,,loser

west indian cricket is down the pan and you are a sad little man ,,,you cant face the fact that the Aussies are number 1 and way better than what the windies ever were and will be,,now on your bike little west indian MAN,i refuse to read or answer your stupid points ,how convenoient you left all the bowlers out that i mentioned,by the way dopey ponting averaged near 40 against the great fast bowling of england,,,did you not see that...get a life man or stay of the rum you are boring and 1 sided like your mate Marc the know it all,,,,i am off to another thread so do not be where i am please,just stick on this thread and have some rum and remember when the windies had a good 5 years or so ,in all your years of playing cricket hahahahahahah loser

 

[James]

Take some "calm down juice" jlo33692. There is no need to resort to personal attacks on other members when they don't agree with one of your particular points.

 

[Eclipse]

LOL. Harmison, Jones and Flintoff are the basis of my point!! He didn't play them very well. That...was...my...point! Wow!

he played them fine if you ask me...

averaged 39 which was IMO due to being slightly out of form a run out or two as well...

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

he played them fine if you ask me...

averaged 39 which was IMO due to being slightly out of form a run out or two as well...

That's a poor average for Ponting, but averages aside, Ponting rarely ever looked comfortable at the crease. He looked very vulnerable, which is my point.

 

[Eclipse]

That's a poor average for Ponting, but averages aside, Ponting rarely ever looked comfortable at the crease. He looked very vulnerable, which is my point.

Well I disagree, he never really looked comfortable yes but to me he still played alright and didn't look VERY vulnerable.. To me he was just a little out of touch, he's looking very comftable againt Freddie and Harmo atm btw..