Neil Pickup
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Word for Word, you said he's a slogger!
Yes, he plays the odd slog (who doesn't?!).
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Yes, he plays the odd slog (who doesn't?!).
Rik
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Which is what I was implying...Neil Pickup said:
I don't know why everyone has this odd idea I think Jayasuria has the ability of a tailender. Try asking me rather than guessing what I think.
What would you call Jayasuria by the way? Orthodox? No! No one in the game other than maybe Afridi hits the ball in the air so often. Which can be construed as slogging as it gives a chance.
Langeveldt
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Rik said:
I nearly jumped out of my seat when he bowled two good balls in a row to Jayasuriya this morning. But he landed back down to earth after injuring himself! Pity, he could have got his hat trick...
Not when the shots are well placed, not when it clears the fence so many times, not when he does it successfully innings after innings....Rik said:
Lofted shots are also proper cricketing shots in every sense when you time the ball well, place the ball well and they should not be equated with slogging just because they are both in-the-air shots. Slogging is when you use brute force to club the ball away, timing be damned, placement be damned. Both tailenders as well as established batsmen(including Jayasuriya) slog in end-over situations or when the situation is desperate enough, but a plain, straightforward slogger can never be as successful as Jayasuriya is. He is inconsistent, yes, but he also has over 8500 runs in nearly 300 ODIs. You don't get that by slogging throughout your career. He is a very aggressive one day batsman, not a slogger.
Neil Pickup
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Nothing near as many as Sanath has.
Rik, tip for you: make your next post "Jayasuriya is not a slogger"
Rik, tip for you: make your next post "Jayasuriya is not a slogger"
Jayasuriya has 8645 runs in 287 one dayers at 32.13. He has won 33 man-of-the-match awards and 8 man-of-the-series awards in the meantime in ODIs.Rik said:
In comparison, Afridi has 3871 runs in 173 one dayers at 24.04 with 11 man-of-the-match awards and 1 man-of-the finals award.
Afridi with his hit-or-miss attitude to batting comes much closer to your(and mine) definition of a slogger. and don't tell me Afridi will be at the same level when he has reached the same number of games played. He won't be.
Mr Mxyzptlk
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If Jayasuriya is a slogger, then players like Gilchrist and Klusener are too. All three play over the top, have high S/R and play unorthodox strokes at various times in the innings. Admittedly, Jayasuriya is a bit inconsistent but I wouldn't drop him from the SL for an instant. He's a valuable part of the ODI side and is always a key wicket for the opposition to aim for.
Rik
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I wouldn't either. Out of the players you have mentioned...I've only seen Gilly play shots along the ground...albiet a lot of them in very few balls! Klusener I have seen belt full tosses back over the bowler's head in SA with a flat bat...that's pretty much slogging.Mr Mxyzptlk said:
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Mr Mxyzptlk
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Well I remember seeing Gilly play quite a few over-the-top shots against WI last time they were there and on the subcontinent. An onside aerial flick and a bullet square of the wicket stand out.
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Yet Klusener is still a fine player who can play strokes. Would you criticize Klusener for his style of play? His manner has brought him a good Test and ODI career so far.
Also consider that Klusener slogs almost every time he bats because he has 6 or 7 overs to face almost every time he bats. I have seen Klusener settle down and play strokes but he is undoubtedly at his best when attacking (dare I say slogging). This does not make him a crap player though.
Eclipse
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Cant beleve you have never seen Gilchrist hit a six.
I have seen Gilly hit alot of sixes with all sorts off shots but he does not slog as much as others. Genraly gilly's sixes are good shots lofted drives pulls sweeps cuts cover drives etc...
Gillys deffinatly got the best range of shots in the world I would say.
I have seen Gilly hit alot of sixes with all sorts off shots but he does not slog as much as others. Genraly gilly's sixes are good shots lofted drives pulls sweeps cuts cover drives etc...
Gillys deffinatly got the best range of shots in the world I would say.
Andre
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Michael Bevan is the Australian vice-captain :wow:. Seems abit odd to me, granted he is experianced at this level but let's just say he's not exactly leadership material.
He was an absolutely terrible captain for NSW, they went down hill under his leadership. Personally I'd have prefered to see Maher or Martyn as vice-captain - atleast they are captaincy material at domestic level!
He was an absolutely terrible captain for NSW, they went down hill under his leadership. Personally I'd have prefered to see Maher or Martyn as vice-captain - atleast they are captaincy material at domestic level!
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My point is that Jayasuriya isn't crap either.Rik said:
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I disagree. I would say Lara or Tendulkar.Eclipse said: