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*Official* VB Series Thread
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Rik
Cricketer Of The Year
I think I know the reason that India have started winning...and it's not anything to do with Tim attending those ODIs...it's that England have started loosing again! It seems that only one can win if they are playing series at the same time, and of course if they are playing a series against each otheranilramavarma said:
I don't think their fates are that interconnected.Rik said:I think I know the reason that India have started winning...and it's not anything to do with Tim attending those ODIs...it's that England have started loosing again! It seems that only one can win if they are playing series at the same time, and of course if they are playing a series against each other
England has lost against Sri Lanka because 1) The Lankan team looks desperate to make a fight out of what has been a humiliating series for them so far 2) Some of their main batsmen have touched form atlast which had to happen(they aren't so bad that they will lose all the time) 3) The return of Murali, I think has galvanised them to greater efforts 4) After the first couple of rounds, England probably thought that they just have to turn up against SL to win.Injuries have been the only excuse till now for England's debacles in Australia. Now, I suppose you are tired of that and is coming up with a new one: England loses because India wins
Rik
Cricketer Of The Year
I just pointed out that it seemed to happen a lot, a coincidence. Then typically someone has to claim I'm making an excuse. No sir, I am not. England were just not good enough. Harmison and Irani should not be in the team and "the sloggeranilramavarma said:
" Jayasuria is back to form 
Now, that's muuuch better, Rik!!Rik said:I just pointed out that it seemed to happen a lot, a coincidence. Then typically someone has to claim I'm making an excuse. No sir, I am not. England were just not good enough. Harmison and Irani should not be in the team and "the slogger
Neil Pickup
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Murali... he just seems to raise the other Sri Lankans by 20% when he's around. It's like Gough with England or Warney with the Aussies, only far more pronounced.. :O
Chris, if your memory lasts longer than two months, Irani scored 50 and took 5-20something in one game in the NatWest Series last summer. Not Pub Cricketer.
He's just in a massive, massive trough at the minute and needs runs and wickets badly.
Harmison... I think dropping him will shoot his confidence to pieces so we ought to stick by him. He's going to the WC so there's no point leaving him out to dry.
Flintoff's back now so that's good anyway (I hope he stays fit this time..)
Chris, if your memory lasts longer than two months, Irani scored 50 and took 5-20something in one game in the NatWest Series last summer. Not Pub Cricketer.
He's just in a massive, massive trough at the minute and needs runs and wickets badly.
Harmison... I think dropping him will shoot his confidence to pieces so we ought to stick by him. He's going to the WC so there's no point leaving him out to dry.
Flintoff's back now so that's good anyway
(I hope he stays fit this time..)Legglancer
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Rik said:
Frankly the joke was not perticularly funny (in my openion)!!! However humor or lack of it is one's personal trait that cannot be faulted.
I have nothing against you Rik .... I simply challenged you standup and be accountable for your valued openion. You have an absolute right, in your openion to call Jayasuruya a mere "Slogger". But the Evidence brought forward to support you argument (in my openion) is rather flimsy.
In my Openion, Calling Jayasuriya a mere slogger sells him "far short" and is a "overly simpistic" description. If you pay attention to the rest of the forum .... you may have conclude that most of them agree with me.
Once again Rik, let me assure you that this is nothing personal !!!
Legglancer
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Congrats to the Sri Lankens for their convincing
win over England. Now thankfully it does not look too much like a two horse race anymore. I say that England and SL have a 50% chance of getting to the final. I wonder what the betting odds are.
Once again great show by the Humble Mr jayasuriya This time a much more slower innings by him but looks to be gaining in confidence. Mr De Silva Finally came to the party & got some runs under his belt, But I am not too convinced about Tillkartne?
He seems to be far too slow for the shorter game?
Any thoughts?
Tresco again played a great innings... wish he could do the same against the aussies.... Should have got a hundread though. Me thinks ... England need 2 people dearly !
1) Vaughn
2) Gough
win over England. Now thankfully it does not look too much like a two horse race anymore. I say that England and SL have a 50% chance of getting to the final. I wonder what the betting odds are.
Once again great show by the Humble Mr jayasuriya This time a much more slower innings by him but looks to be gaining in confidence. Mr De Silva Finally came to the party & got some runs under his belt, But I am not too convinced about Tillkartne?
He seems to be far too slow for the shorter game?
Any thoughts?
Tresco again played a great innings... wish he could do the same against the aussies.... Should have got a hundread though. Me thinks ... England need 2 people dearly !
1) Vaughn
2) Gough
Rik
Cricketer Of The Year
I never once said he was a "mere" slogger, I said he plays some shots which are basically slogs.Legglancer said:Frankly the joke was not perticularly funny (in my openion)!!! However humor or lack of it is one's personal trait that cannot be faulted.
I have nothing against you Rik .... I simply challenged you standup and be accountable for your valued openion. You have an absolute right, in your openion to call Jayasuruya a mere "Slogger". But the Evidence brought forward to support you argument (in my openion) is rather flimsy.
In my Openion, Calling Jayasuriya a mere slogger sells him "far short" and is a "overly simpistic" description. If you pay attention to the rest of the forum .... you may have conclude that most of them agree with me.
Once again Rik, let me assure you that this is nothing personal !!!
Ok good, we don't want any problems here
Mr Mxyzptlk
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Overall, I am very disappointed with the English performance. For the second consecutive game, they have collapsed to defeat when poised for victory. The middle has to be addressed IMMEDIATELY.
I dare say, England should take a leaf out of India's book and try to finish off a match despite a potentially destructive collapse. India's last two victories have been tight and should have been much easier. However, the fact is that they did win in the end by hanging in there.
Good to see Trecothick in form though and Knight continuing his form.
I dare say, England should take a leaf out of India's book and try to finish off a match despite a potentially destructive collapse. India's last two victories have been tight and should have been much easier. However, the fact is that they did win in the end by hanging in there.
Good to see Trecothick in form though and Knight continuing his form.
age_master
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why did vaughan not play!!! he was bowling in the nets befor ethe game and didn't seem to be having any trpouble
Rik
Cricketer Of The Year
I find it quite rich that Hussain blamed Tresco and Knight for not going on...He got out cheaply remember, and Shah didn't do well. Other than Stewart all the rest of the players were all-rounders or bowlers...I would blame Shah and Hussain for this defeat, and on Harmison and Irani for bowling utter tripe.
Tim
Cricketer Of The Year
England seem to be having the same problem as NZ where they are playing too many players who can do a bit of everything.
From Collingwood downwards they are all all-rounders & they aren't accomplished enough.
If I were England I'd bring Vaughan back for Shah & drop Irani for Hollioake.
From Collingwood downwards they are all all-rounders & they aren't accomplished enough.
If I were England I'd bring Vaughan back for Shah & drop Irani for Hollioake.
The Argonaut
State Vice-Captain
England will need to make some changes if it hopes to make the finals.
Having Vaughan coming in at 3 will help the balance of the side.
There are too many allrounders in the side that are not contributing to either discipline well enough. Keep Collingwood there as a batsman only. He hit a good 100 earlier in the series. If Flintoff is fit then get him in there and the same goes for Giles.
Harmison is not bowling well enough and his fielding is costing the team even more runs.
Irani is just so badly out of form that he must be dropped. Hussain should never have batted him at 3. This is where he lost his confidence.
The side should be:
Trescothick, Knight, Vaughan, Hussain, Collingwood, Stewart, Flintoff (or Hollioake), Blackwell, Giles (or Kirtley), Caddick, Anderson
Replacements are in brackets if players are not fit or not on the country.
Having Vaughan coming in at 3 will help the balance of the side.
There are too many allrounders in the side that are not contributing to either discipline well enough. Keep Collingwood there as a batsman only. He hit a good 100 earlier in the series. If Flintoff is fit then get him in there and the same goes for Giles.
Harmison is not bowling well enough and his fielding is costing the team even more runs.
Irani is just so badly out of form that he must be dropped. Hussain should never have batted him at 3. This is where he lost his confidence.
The side should be:
Trescothick, Knight, Vaughan, Hussain, Collingwood, Stewart, Flintoff (or Hollioake), Blackwell, Giles (or Kirtley), Caddick, Anderson
Replacements are in brackets if players are not fit or not on the country.
Rik
Cricketer Of The Year
You call 9-0-53-0 and 2 (10) good practise? No, he needs to get back into form in the nets and have some more practise against a bowling machine or something. In the middle he keeps failing and that neither helps his confidence nor England's chances. If your not good enough to hold a place in the side then you don't play, it's as simple as that, and England have a more than capable replacement in Hollioake just waiting in the wings.marc71178 said: