***Official*** VB Series 2006

[Slats4ever]

Lol he was being sarcastic

Dippenaar was out IMO, because he didn't get his bat across the line and hence the "dodging the ball to avade injury" law is irrelevant. Otherwise you could "avoid injury" half-way down the pitch and be not out. His foot was also far from 'certainly down over the line' so it should have been referred. That being said, he may have been given the benefit of the doubt with the replay. Either way, Gilly went overboard with his complaining to Dar. What if he did that to an LBW decision? An outside edge decision? Would have been deemed inappropriate. The same goes here.

Glad to see some consistency being shown now.

this is a different case however to an lbw decision or an outside edge. All Gilchrist wanted was to use the technology to prove a case he was correctly arguing. I'm sure he woulda been happy if it was adjudged not out by a television umpire. The television umpires are there. Dar shoulda thrown his personal pride out the window and had a look at the umpire.

 

[Slats4ever]

I can't actually remember, was Venkatravaghan a good umpire?

as eddie said rent a caravan was a great umpire.

 

[Slats4ever]

Could someone float the name of a single international umpire who hasn't been castigated within these forums over the last 12 months?

steve randell.

 

[Slats4ever]

who's the new Australian vice... anyone know... perhaps Mr Cricket might get another guernsey!!! Seems the most likely candidate to me...

 

[luckyeddie]

steve randell.

Let's not go there - lest I make a pretty horrible joke about ........ no, let's just not go there.

 

[Nate]

It`ll be Hussey for sure Ian.

 

[Blaze]

I would go for Martyn.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Whatever happened to Reg Reagan commentating the Twenty20 game?

 

[Jono]

this is a different case however to an lbw decision or an outside edge. All Gilchrist wanted was to use the technology to prove a case he was correctly arguing. I'm sure he woulda been happy if it was adjudged not out by a television umpire. The television umpires are there. Dar shoulda thrown his personal pride out the window and had a look at the umpire.

Yeah I know Dar made the wrong decision, and Gilly and the rest of the team were right to feel aggrieved about him not calling for a replay. My main point is no matter how bad a decision is by the umpire, whether it be an lbw, caught or not calling for a third umpire replay when he so obviously should have, the players don't have a right to argue with umpires for an extended period of time trying to convince them to do what they like. Badgering the umpire consistently shouldn't be tolerated. Questioning them, getting the answer and then walking off feeling disappointed is fine, we don't want robots of players. But you can't carry on like Gilly did, and like Lee did earlier this year. IMO anyway.

 

[Wazim]

I agree. If a player asks a umpire, the umpire should have a right to tell him why he made the decision. IF the umpire says no the first time, the player should leave it at that and that only. Not continue to badger the umpire, the umpires job is hard enough and last thing they need is players badgering why each decision won't go their way.

Despite the fact that alot of decisions go against teams, alot of correct decisions are made in the process.

 

[Slats4ever]

Yeah I know Dar made the wrong decision, and Gilly and the rest of the team were right to feel aggrieved about him not calling for a replay. My main point is no matter how bad a decision is by the umpire, whether it be an lbw, caught or not calling for a third umpire replay when he so obviously should have, the players don't have a right to argue with umpires for an extended period of time trying to convince them to do what they like. Badgering the umpire consistently shouldn't be tolerated. Questioning them, getting the answer and then walking off feeling disappointed is fine, we don't want robots of players. But you can't carry on like Gilly did, and like Lee did earlier this year. IMO anyway.

that i suppose is fair enough... at the end of the day the main problem is, is that the umpires get off scotch free, and it all goes one way. It seems nowadays that even if they make lots of poor decisions they still get hundreds of thousands of dollars every year and get paid like world class umpires. When fact is they're not.

It seems like a regular occurance these days for players to get their match fee's cut due to indiscretions at the umpire. Which I suppose might be fair enough in some cases. These fines I believe are to improve the players attitudes towards the umpires. Shouldn't umpires also get their match fees cut if they have poor games. This may be a way to ultimately increase the amount of correct decisions they make

 

[Son Of Coco]

Accepted - gladly. The little things are important.

Don't you think that it's the little things in life - the sights, sounds and smells that make life so worth while?

The crisp crunch as you walk on snow that has felt the frost for the very first time, the smell of newly-baked bread under the arm of the fleeing little soon-to-be-Australian urchin, the smell of freshly-mown hay on a dewy summer's morning, the bleating of lambs as the frolic across the field, blissfully unaware that a New Zealander is (voice fades into distance)

haha, you forgot the crisp sound of carrot hitting footpath as another Englishman/woman enjoys a night out past 6pm...

 

[garage flower]

that i suppose is fair enough... at the end of the day the main problem is, is that the umpires get off scotch free, and it all goes one way. It seems nowadays that even if they make lots of poor decisions they still get hundreds of thousands of dollars every year and get paid like world class umpires. When fact is they're not.

It seems like a regular occurance these days for players to get their match fee's cut due to indiscretions at the umpire. Which I suppose might be fair enough in some cases. These fines I believe are to improve the players attitudes towards the umpires. Shouldn't umpires also get their match fees cut if they have poor games. This may be a way to ultimately increase the amount of correct decisions they make

As big a fan as I am of Saint Adam, I don't understand how you can equate his being fined for dissent/misconduct, with an umpire being fined for poor performances. The latter would be a form of performance-related pay, which is completely separate from issues of (mis)conduct. If St. Adam was on performance-related pay at the moment, he'd be busking on the streets of Perth and auctioning his bat, gloves and halo on e-bay.

 

[luckyeddie]

haha, you forgot the crisp sound of carrot hitting footpath as another Englishman/woman enjoys a night out past 6pm...

Is that something to do with having *** with a snowman?

 

[luckyeddie]

I would go for Martyn.

Well, he is a bit of a sweetie, but I think he's a little too mature for you.

 

[vic_orthdox]

If Clarke had've still been in the Test side, I think it could well have been worth going to him to be acting VC. Ponting, as a one day captain, is pretty good IMO, and can lead a fair bit more independently. Seeing as Clarke has been anointed as the "next captain of Australia", it would have been well worthwhile to do so for a couple of games.

As it is, you probably couldn't do that now.

 

[ohtani's jacket]

What's with Gilchrist? He seems a bit cynical lately.

On the tour to NZ, I saw him give the universal symbol for licking ***** Don't know who he was calling a *****, probably one of our players.

 

[andyc]

For the vice-captain role, I reckon Katich would be a good choice, but, despite his good scores, he never really seems to have his place secured so I doubt he'd get it.

 

[James90]

If Clarke had've still been in the Test side, I think it could well have been worth going to him to be acting VC. Ponting, as a one day captain, is pretty good IMO, and can lead a fair bit more independently. Seeing as Clarke has been anointed as the "next captain of Australia", it would have been well worthwhile to do so for a couple of games.

As it is, you probably couldn't do that now.

I seriously hope not. If Ponting were to get shot down today then Hussey could well take over. Of course Gilchrist would be the obvious choice. I know I will get slammed by most of the forum for saying this but I still believe Cameron White is the next Australian captain.

 

[vic_orthdox]

I seriously hope not. If Ponting were to get shot down today then Hussey could well take over. Of course Gilchrist would be the obvious choice. I know I will get slammed by most of the forum for saying this but I still believe Cameron White is the next Australian captain.

I don't really agree with Clarke being the next captain in the 1st place either. But if it's going to happen, then here could be an ideal opportunity for Ponting to read Clarke's thought processes and give some feedback as to how he think he could go. Just because someone fills in as VC doesn't mean their automatically the next choice as Captain - Ponting wasn't Waugh's VC...