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Anil

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Burgey said:
Yeah it's remarkable really that hrs played in, what, five French finals on his "worst" surface. You could argue hrs actually among the top echelon of clay courters himself, only he's run into Nadal.
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he clearly is...outside of nadal and borg, i would argue that there has been no one better than him (or as good) on clay...
 
Jono

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
morgieb said:
lol, Novak.

Had a clear path to #1, and ****ed it up :laugh:
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morgieb said:
Novak would've been #1 had he beat Roger. Rafa doesn't even come into the equation.

Also, Novak of 2011 >>>>>> Roger of 2011 (up until this).
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Morgie, there's a reason very few players can even get a streak of 40+ matches, and even more of a reason why no one gets too many more. Sure Novak had the extra rest having the quarter-final walkover, but this streak was always going to end fairly soon. It's impossible to just keep winning against the best in the world.

Every time you keep winning you have to keep playing whilst your opponents get a rest. This all adds up. McEnroe himself said he was lucky to have his streak without a Slam. Novak had to play more sets than McEnroe under more pressure, and he also had to do it on different surfaces.

To say he "****ed up" his path to world #1 by losing to the greatest player of all time is a very weird outlook.
 
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Didn't Federer grow up playing on clay courts? He's hardly foreign to it. I'm not even sure you can fairly say it's his worst surface. Sure he's had the least amount of success on it, but that's due to Nadal being so good on it, not necessarily a drop off in Federer's play on that particular surface.
 
morgieb

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benchmark00 said:
Didn't Federer grow up playing on clay courts? He's hardly foreign to it. I'm not even sure you can fairly say it's his worst surface. Sure he's had the least amount of success on it, but that's due to Nadal being so good on it, not necessarily a drop off in Federer's play on that particular surface.
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Well fair points, but I think it's fair to say it's his weakest surface. He's only won 1 slam on the surface, whereas he's won 6 on grass and 9 on hards.

Which is amazing, as I can't think of any players who are excellent on all 3 surfaces. Agassi wasn't that special on natural courts (he was a great hard court player though iirc), Nadal hasn't had a hell lot of success on hard courts apart from his 2 wins, and Laver I don't think played much on hards.
 
Bobisback

Bobisback

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Well played Na Li, Li Na, whatev. Been playing awesome lately, from what ive seen in the slams anyway.

Now I just need rafa to win tomorrow to get a nice little dividend. Though with the way fed played yesterday, not too confident.
 
Jono

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Bobisback said:
Well played Na Li, Li Na, whatev. Been playing awesome lately, from what ive seen in the slams anyway.

Now I just need rafa to win tomorrow to get a nice little dividend. Though with the way fed played yesterday, not too confident.
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Hedge your bets then. Since Na Li has already won as part of your multi, you've basically got a "Nadal" to win the French Open at whatever odds you got your multi at.

I've seen Fed as high as $3.1. Could guarantee a nice profit for you either way.
 
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