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***Official*** Super Series

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
venomous said:
Inzy's decision is not lame nor immature, its a very wise decision. He did what was needed to be done. A player who has performed consistently well in both forms of the game, than so called biggies like Sachin, Gibbs, Kallis etc etc & etc for last 2-3 years, is negelected through out the course of selection...and then gets a replacement in the end, for an injured players who has been injured for last 2 years!...that's just simply pathetic, just pathetic!....but well, it wld have been a waste of time for him, so he shldn't care much. Better to stay home and get prepared for the upcoming tough series, instead of filling up ICC & selectors deep pockets by playing in a futile series.
As I've said before he should have been in the original squad for the Test side, but definitely not the ODI side. A difficult decision going against you is no justification to throw your toys out of the pram - he'd have never played a Test for Pakistan if he'd displayed this sort of attitude at the beginning of his career. He was never a shoo-in anyway like a Murali or Flintoff, his record against Australia is rubbish and he's still a useless fielder outside of the close catchers.

For the record:

Inzi in Australia (Tests): 7 matches, 493 runs, HS 118, average 35.21

his overall record against Australia is slightly worse than this in Test cricket.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
venomous said:
Inzy's decision is not lame nor immature, its a very wise decision. He did what was needed to be done. A player who has performed consistently well in both forms of the game, than so called biggies like Sachin, Gibbs, Kallis etc etc & etc for last 2-3 years, is negelected through out the course of selection.
For a start the Gibbs comparison is irrelevant as they're fighting for different spots in the line-up.

Also, I think you'll find Kallis' record of the last 2-3 years is a fair bit better than Inzy - 2882 runs @ 70.29 compared with 1498 @ 59.92.
 

howardj

International Coach
venomous said:
Inzamam snubs Super Series

PTI

September 26, 2005

Inzamam: "I deserve respect and nothing else" © Getty Images

Inzamam-ul-Haq has refused to represent the World XI in next month's Super Test against Australia, after an apparent mix-up in communication with the Pakistan board.

"The Pakistan Cricket Board had given me an understanding that I would be in both the World XIs (ODI and Test)," Pakistan's captain, Inzamam, told the news agency PTI on Monday from Lahore, "but till today, they have not conveyed to me about my selection. I have already read my selection in the newspapers."

The Pakistan board announced that Inzamam would be in both teams on Wednesday, but two days later the ICC said that he would feature in the six-day Super Test squad only, and as a replacement for Sachin Tendulkar at that. He was omitted from the one-dayers, with the ICC instead naming Chris Gayle and Rahul Dravid as replacements for Sachin Tendulkar and Herschelle Gibbs.

"At this stage of my career, I deserve respect and nothing else," said Inzamam. "I am not pleased at all with whatever has happened. Having played cricket with respect and distinction, I don't deserve this at the fag end of my career."

He added that if he was not representing the World XI in the Test match, there was question of him participating in the Captains Conference and 2nd ICC Annual Awards. "I will not go to Australia for just one match. I have not conveyed my decision to the cricket board and there is no need for this because they have not yet communicated to me about my selection."
What a precious idiot. Good riddance to him. I'd expect a tennis player to carry on like this, but not a cricketer. I mean, it's not though he is a Bradmanesque figure whose performances made him a certainty in both squads. Yes, he was initially unlucky to be excluded, however he's carrying on like a little baby. He's now been selected in the Test squad, what more does he want? Does he want the red carpet to be rolled out for him at the ground and for the Prime Minister to meet him at Sydney airport? What a precious little soul. This Super Series can only really work if it is played in the right spirit - the kind of spirit and good grace that Inzy clearly lacks.
 
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venomous

Cricket Spectator
Scaly piscine said:
As I've said before he should have been in the original squad for the Test side, but definitely not the ODI side. A difficult decision going against you is no justification to throw your toys out of the pram - he'd have never played a Test for Pakistan if he'd displayed this sort of attitude at the beginning of his career. He was never a shoo-in anyway like a Murali or Flintoff, his record against Australia is rubbish and he's still a useless fielder outside of the close catchers.

For the record:

Inzi in Australia (Tests): 7 matches, 493 runs, HS 118, average 35.21

his overall record against Australia is slightly worse than this in Test cricket.
His record against Australia is rubbish? :blink: And currently no.1 test batsman "J. Kallis" has an avg. of 32, & others like GC Smith has an avg. of 28 agaisnt Australia...this must be rubbish too right??...no doubt they both are great batsman...but by calling Inzy rubbish is just not sane.
 

venomous

Cricket Spectator
marc71178 said:
For a start the Gibbs comparison is irrelevant as they're fighting for different spots in the line-up.

Also, I think you'll find Kallis' record of the last 2-3 years is a fair bit better than Inzy - 2882 runs @ 70.29 compared with 1498 @ 59.92.
Yeh, i take it back, my bad.
 

jlo33692

U19 Debutant
Thanks Neil realised after i submit message,OOPS

I think whoever misses out on a world 12 to play is unlucky,,,i mean it is a world 12 or 11,its not like a country 11 . It should be a honour to even be concidered in the 11 world best let alone get a game for it. I think it was Muruli that said it was a great honour to be picked in the squad.It would be a dream to make the side,but if not he will cherish that he was indeed thought of as one of the best cricketers in the world 25 in 2005 ,something he can tell his grandkids,now that is from someone who was always going to make it ,but who is humble enough to recocnise the talent that would miss out. That is what makes champion players into champion people and when they are champions of the people a lot of things can be forgiven,(shane warne) nobody has an automatic right to be selected in the worlds best team,NOBODY. IMO
 
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jlo33692

U19 Debutant
What was the original team 12 ,before withdrawels ?
You cannot squeeze 15 batsmen into 5 spots, i also think they would have taken fitness and fielding into the eqasion if 3 or 4 players were on par, The selectors can never get it right in some eyes for whoever they picked there would have been an outcry from whoever missed out.
I hope when ppl are putting forward players to play it is nothing to do with nationality as this would be the last thing selectors ever thought of
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
well now that Iniz has decided not to play i reckon Vaughan will surely be called up & if he is shouldn't he captain the side 8-)
 

Choora

State Regular
Barney Rubble said:
Personally I think this is an extremely arrogant decision from Inzy. A great player who has been in great form, but regardless of his disappointment at not being selected, his lack of respect for the decision of the selection panel (all of whom were better cricketers than Inzy in their day, and whose opinions should be respected) strikes me of being a case of throwing his toys out of the pram big style.

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Selectors are judge by their judgement and not on the basis of their records during their playing days.You are suppose to respect them coz they are selectors and not because they had piled up more runs than you on their playing days... LOL!

I think the selectors made a blunder by not including Inzi in the initial squad, basically on what basis the squad was selected is beyond me, as cricketers that haven't played international cricket coz of injury got selected in the squad.

Inzi made the right decision, he shouldn't go like that, he deserves more than being just a standby player really.
 

Choora

State Regular
howardj said:
What a precious idiot. Good riddance to him. I'd expect a tennis player to carry on like this, but not a cricketer. I mean, it's not though he is a Bradmanesque figure whose performances made him a certainty in both squads. Yes, he was initially unlucky to be excluded, however he's carrying on like a little baby. He's now been selected in the Test squad, what more does he want? Does he want the red carpet to be rolled out for him at the ground and for the Prime Minister to meet him at Sydney airport? .
Well that PM and red carpet stuff was clearly stupid. That fact that Inzi is suppose to leave for Australia soon and that PCB has still not bothered to inform him about his selection into the squad is something that will annoy most sane ppl.What is he suppose to do? Read his name in newspaper and fly off to Australia?? Is that how things are suppose to work??

Inzi did handle the initiall dissapointment of not getting selected for test squad very well.I remember Ganguly lashing out at selectors for not considering him in recent past when the guy doesn't even deserve a place in Indian team.

This Super Series can only really work if it is played in the right spirit - the kind of spirit and good grace that Inzy clearly lacks
In the selected squad, there are players that have lesser spirit and grace than Inzi, going by that logic this SS is alreday doomed!
 

howardj

International Coach
Choora said:
Well that PM and red carpet stuff was clearly stupid. That fact that Inzi is suppose to leave for Australia soon and that PCB has still not bothered to inform him about his selection into the squad is something that will annoy most sane ppl.What is he suppose to do? Read his name in newspaper and fly off to Australia?? Is that how things are suppose to work??

Inzi did handle the initiall dissapointment of not getting selected for test squad very well.

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You're a bit deluded there, champ. Yes he may be annoyed about not being informed, but that's beside the point. His real issue is with his non-selection in both teams. He did not handle his omission from the team well at all initially, and he is still not now. Go and read the article, where he is STILL questioning why he should come to Australia if not selected in both teams. He is carrying on like a spoilt brat, because the poor little bloke didnt get his way and get selected in both teams. If you can read or have kept abreast of developments, then that much is pretty clear. 8-)
 

Choora

State Regular
‘Snubbed’ Inzamam withdraws

from Super Test against Aussies

By Waheed Khan

KARACHI: Pakistan captain Inzamam-ul-Haq dropped a bombshell on Monday when he pulled out of next month’s mouth-watering Super Series Test match against Australia in Sydney saying he cared for respect more than anything else.

"I have decided not to play in the Super Test because so far no one has told me why I was initially announced in both the World XI Test and one-day squads but later only picked for the Test match.
No one has explained the background for all this fuss. I am hurt at the way my case has been handled," he said without taking any names.

But his reference was obviously towards the International Cricket Council (ICC) and the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB).

Inzamam a veteran of 101 Tests and 347 one-dayers said the understanding given to him by the PCB was that he would be selected in both the Test and one-day squads.

"But later, through the media, I learnt I had only been picked for the Test match.

Till Monday, the board has not communicated this to me so I have not communicated my decision to them as yet," he added.
 

Choora

State Regular
howardj said:
You're a bit deluded there, champ. Yes he may be annoyed about not being informed, but that's beside the point. His real issue is with his non-selection in both teams.
His real issue seems to be the mess created by PCB and ICC, as clear by his statements, ever cared to read that??

If you can read or have kept abreast of developments, then that much is pretty clear
8-)
 

jlo33692

U19 Debutant
Choora said:
Selectors are judge by their judgement and not on the basis of their records during their playing days.You are suppose to respect them coz they are selectors and not because they had piled up more runs than you on their playing days... LOL!

I think the selectors made a blunder by not including Inzi in the initial squad, basically on what basis the squad was selected is beyond me, as cricketers that haven't played international cricket coz of injury got selected in the squad.

Inzi made the right decision, he shouldn't go like that, he deserves more than being just a standby player really.
CHOORA..
Hi m8 ,why do you think they left him out of the side in the first place,?
If everyone took the approach of inzi we would never fill the team would we?does the next person in line behind INZI say no,becuase i was picked only cause inzi didnt want to play?
Poor sporsmanship i feel,not saying he did not deserve to play originaly but on this issue i think he is displaying poor sportsmanship for a captain or just a player for that matter.Cricket should be beyond all that,this is the world team we are talking here, Cricket and its rules and sportmanship will be around long after inzi has retired,anyway just for curiosity sake why do you think he never made the original team?
 

jlo33692

U19 Debutant
FaaipDeOiad said:
What a joke. With that sort of attitude, Inzy should never have been selected in the first place.
spot on faaip, Maybe that is why he was not chosen as they want a team that will play as a team.
He has deprived all his supporters of the chance to watch him,and he had a perfect oportunity to give it back to selectors in spades with the bat,but chooses not to do so.
I feel all his supporters will be very dissapointed in his actions but i feel he will live to regret his stance. The cricket will still go on.That is why the game is bigger than the INZIVIDUAL hehe
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Choora said:
"I have decided not to play in the Super Test because so far no one has told me why I was initially announced in both the World XI Test and one-day squads but later only picked for the Test match.
Can anyone remember him being in both squads after they were cut down?

I don't remember any announcements about that, apart from when they made the initial listings.
 

jlo33692

U19 Debutant
Choora said:
‘Snubbed’ Inzamam withdraws

from Super Test against Aussies

By Waheed Khan

KARACHI: Pakistan captain Inzamam-ul-Haq dropped a bombshell on Monday when he pulled out of next month’s mouth-watering Super Series Test match against Australia in Sydney saying he cared for respect more than anything else.

"I have decided not to play in the Super Test because so far no one has told me why I was initially announced in both the World XI Test and one-day squads but later only picked for the Test match.
No one has explained the background for all this fuss. I am hurt at the way my case has been handled," he said without taking any names.

But his reference was obviously towards the International Cricket Council (ICC) and the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB).

Inzamam a veteran of 101 Tests and 347 one-dayers said the understanding given to him by the PCB was that he would be selected in both the Test and one-day squads.

"But later, through the media, I learnt I had only been picked for the Test match.

Till Monday, the board has not communicated this to me so I have not communicated my decision to them as yet," he added.
Choora ,that article is a bit slanted,obviously written by a Inzi supporter,If you read some of the other articles in papers it was more along the lines of Who the hell does this guy think he is telling the selectors where ,when, and in what games he must be selected in.
Just so hard to see any other captain doing that ,as it makes inzi look so poor , i hope he changes his mind but i feel the selectors will not hand the olive branch out now.
 

jlo33692

U19 Debutant
marc71178 said:
Can anyone remember him being in both squads after they were cut down?

I don't remember any announcements about that, apart from when they made the initial listings.
Nope,for mine he was selected in tests only after the chopper ran through the team lists.
Pretty certain about that Marc unless he has been promised something unbeknown to us which i would doubt very much.
 

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